From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:07:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:07:47 -0400 Received: from router-100M.swansea.linux.org.uk ([194.168.151.17]:3346 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:07:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [OT] DMCA loop hole To: jap3003+response@ksu.edu Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:09:08 +0100 (BST) Cc: pgallen@randomlogic.com (Paul G. Allen), linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20010803165221.C11011@ksu.edu> from "Joseph Pingenot" at Aug 03, 2001 04:52:22 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Alan Cox Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > >From Paul G. Allen on Wednesday, 01 August, 2001: > >To take another angle, those of us who actively look for exploits in software (because companies like M$ fail to do so themselves) risk being sued for doing so. > > Hrm. Very good point. However, under most EULA's I've seen, reverse > engineering is already a no-no. Most EULA's are not legal contracts. In civilised countries the right to disassemble is enshrined in law (ironically it comes in Europe from trying to keep car manufacturers from running monopolistic scams not from the software people doing the same) In the USA its a lot less clear. You can find laws explicitly claiming both, and since US law is primarily about who has loads of money, its a bit irrelevant Alan