From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
Cc: Donald Becker <becker@scyld.com>,
Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux/Pro -- clusters
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 18:16:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16BJBR-0000RM-00@starship.berlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10112032057070.978-100000@vaio.greennet> <E16BGhe-0000Pq-00@starship.berlin> <3C0CE97F.74AFFDBC@mandrakesoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <3C0CE97F.74AFFDBC@mandrakesoft.com>
On December 4, 2001 04:19 pm, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Daniel Phillips wrote:
> >
> > On December 4, 2001 03:09 am, Donald Becker wrote:
> > > To bring this branch back on point: we should distinguish between
> > > design for an arbitrary and unpredictable goal (e.g. 128 way SMP)
> > > vs. putting some design into things that we are supposed to already
> > > understan
> > > [...]
> > > a VFS layer that doesn't require the kernel to know a priori all of
> > > the filesystem types that might be loaded
> >
> > Right, there's a consensus that the fs includes have to fixed and that it
> > should be in 2.5.lownum. The precise plan isn't fully evolved yet ;)
> >
> > See fsdevel for the thread, 3-4 months ago. IIRC, the favored idea (Linus's)
> > was to make the generic struct inode part of the fs-specific inode instead of
> > the other way around, which resolves the question of how the compiler
> > calculates the size/layout of an inode.
> >
> > This is going to be a pervasive change that someone has to do all in one
> > day, so it remains to be seen when/if that is actually going to happen.
> >
> > It's also going to break every out-of-tree filesystem.
>
> ug. what's wrong with a single additional alloc for generic_ip? [if a
> filesystem needs to do multiple allocs post-conversion, somebody's doing
> something wrong]
Single additional alloc -> twice as many allocs, two slabs, more cachelines
dirty. This was hashed out on fsdevel, though apparently not to everyone's
satisfaction.
> Using generic_ip in its current form has the advantage of being able to
> create a nicely-aligned kmem cache for your private inode data.
I don't see why that's hard with the combined struct.
--
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-12-04 17:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-12-03 18:12 Donald Becker
2001-12-04 1:55 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-04 2:09 ` Donald Becker
2001-12-04 2:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-04 2:34 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-04 9:10 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 9:30 ` Thomas Langås
2001-12-04 9:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 11:34 ` Thomas Langås
2001-12-05 21:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-05 23:05 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-12-06 4:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-05 23:49 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-05 23:48 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-12-06 16:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 18:02 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 18:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 18:33 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 19:19 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 22:35 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 22:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 22:58 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-07 10:14 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-07 10:37 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-07 10:56 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-07 12:08 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-07 20:51 ` On re-working the major/minor system Erik Andersen
2001-12-07 21:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-07 21:55 ` Erik Andersen
2001-12-07 22:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-07 23:07 ` Erik Andersen
2001-12-07 23:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-08 11:42 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-08 20:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-09 12:06 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-09 21:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-11 20:45 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-06 18:12 ` Linux/Pro -- clusters Kai Henningsen
2001-12-06 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 22:40 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 18:38 ` Doug Ledford
2001-12-04 14:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 15:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-04 17:16 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2001-12-04 17:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-04 18:04 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 20:20 ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-05 13:11 ` Deep look into VFS Martin Dalecki
2001-12-05 15:19 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-05 15:30 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-08 1:50 Linux/Pro -- clusters Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-08 3:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-08 17:26 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-09 4:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-09 5:49 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-09 8:59 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-10 16:49 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-10 17:09 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-11 8:39 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-12-10 19:36 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-10 22:55 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-10 19:51 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-10 20:34 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-10 21:31 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-10 21:44 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-10 22:48 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-10 23:33 Andries.Brouwer
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