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From: "RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado" <raul@viadomus.com>
To: esr@thyrsus.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:30:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16BKL5-0001yJ-00@DervishD.viadomus.com> (raw)

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    Hi Eric :))

>(2) Requiring Python introduces another tool into the requisites list for
>kernel building.  

    I'm happy to see that out of your 'silly' list...

>I'm just going to say "Today's problems, today's tools."

    Hey, hope that Python never gets considered a 'today's tool' or
we will end up needing 256 CPU mainframes just to issue an 'ls'
(maybe this will not be enough if filesystem drivers are written in
Python too. In the future, I mean...).

    And yes, Python is a today's problem. Fortunately, people keeps
rewriting their Python code in true languages.

>Progress happens.

    Python is not progress, is just bloatware. I don't think that the
kernel *building* should be made dependant on such a fatware. And,
how about the 'Python License'. I'm pretty sure that it is compatible
with the rest of the kernel, but we should pray for it not to change.

    And, well, Python is fatware just for me: anyway will see
reasonable to install a 6Mb sources language just for the
configuration of the kernel. Very reasonable.

>If you don't like it, feel free to go back to writing Autocoder on your 1401.

    Good policy... People who don't like Python are morons... And
maybe those that neither use Java or C# for the kernel will be too in
a near future, is that what you're trying to say?

    Eric, I think that this is an important issue and that the
decision about adding such a big dependence to the kernel should be
studied with care, and not imposed.

    Raúl

             reply	other threads:[~2001-12-04 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-04 18:30 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado [this message]
2001-12-04 18:41 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 19:50 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 21:23   ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 20:07 ` Robert Love
2001-12-05  1:26 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-05 16:14 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-06  0:37   ` Eric S. Raymond
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-04 19:06 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:50 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:50 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-05  1:29 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 18:38 Wayne.Brown
2001-12-04 17:18 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2001-12-04 17:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-05  3:21   ` Mike Fedyk
2001-12-04 17:11 Wayne.Brown
2001-12-04 17:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:46 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-12-04 18:21   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:24     ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 23:00     ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 23:05       ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 23:21         ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 17:08 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:17 ` Jakob Kemi
2001-12-04 18:22 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 18:36   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-05  2:30   ` Greg Banks
2001-12-05 10:02     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 18:46 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 18:43   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 19:27     ` David Weinehall
2001-12-05  1:17 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-07  5:22 ` Stevie O
2001-12-03  1:06 Keith Owens
2001-12-03  1:19 ` [kbuild-devel] " Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-03  2:03   ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04  0:22     ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04  0:52       ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 11:04 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 11:52   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 12:22     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 12:21       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-05 11:15         ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-04 12:19   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 12:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 12:28   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 12:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 12:48       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 13:00         ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 13:16           ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 13:29             ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 15:40               ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 16:11               ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 16:33               ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 17:03                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:38                   ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-12-04 17:36                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 19:03                       ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-04 19:04                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:43                   ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 19:48                     ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 19:53                       ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 20:03                         ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 19:57                     ` Mike Castle
2001-12-04 19:59                     ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 20:11                       ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 20:20                       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 21:03                         ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 22:10                         ` Trevor Smith
2001-12-04 22:26                           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 20:20                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-12-05  3:14                       ` John Cowan
2001-12-05  4:36                         ` Mike Fedyk
2001-12-05 14:54                       ` Rob Landley
2001-12-05 14:51                     ` Rob Landley
2001-12-06  0:37                       ` Dave Jones
2001-12-06 16:49                       ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-06  9:57                         ` Rob Landley
2001-12-06 19:10                         ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-06 16:59                       ` John Stoffel
2001-12-06 17:25                         ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 10:03                           ` Rob Landley
2001-12-07  0:06                             ` Keith Owens
2001-12-07  0:57                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-07  1:44                               ` Tom Rini
2001-12-06 18:07                         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-06 18:22                           ` David Weinehall
2001-12-06 18:30                         ` John Stoffel
2001-12-06 18:51                           ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-06 18:59                             ` David Weinehall
2001-12-06 19:14                             ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-06 22:17                             ` John Cowan
2001-12-07 14:44                               ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-07 15:56                                 ` John Alvord
2001-12-10  9:55                                 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-07  0:58                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-07 18:12                             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-04 17:44                   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 17:15                 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 17:19                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:30                     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-04 17:43                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 17:42                     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 17:38                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 18:01                         ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:47                           ` Robert Love
2001-12-04 19:28                         ` Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
2001-12-04 17:20                   ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 17:27                   ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-04 18:13                     ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 18:26                       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:27                         ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 19:19                           ` Stefan Smietanowski
2001-12-04 19:24                             ` Tom Rini
2001-12-05 11:06                       ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-04 16:41               ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 16:52                 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-12-04 17:06                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:15                   ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 17:50                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-05  1:17                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 17:02                 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 17:07                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:08                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:19                 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 17:34                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 16:31 ` John Stoffel

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