From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:42:00 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:40:16 -0500 Received: from 217-126-161-163.uc.nombres.ttd.es ([217.126.161.163]:46217 "EHLO DervishD.viadomus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:39:35 -0500 To: raul@viadomus.com, trini@kernel.crashing.org Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:50:45 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ra=FAl?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?N=FA=F1ez?= de Arenas Coronado Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ra=FAl?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?N=FA=F1ez?= de Arenas Coronado X-Mailer: DervishD TWiSTiNG Mailer Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Tom :)) >> Why must I install Python in order to compile the kernel? I don't >> understand this. I think there are better alternatives, but kbuild >> seems to be imposed any way. >kbuild != CML2. Yes, sorry, just a mental shortcircuit ;)) >It all boils down to the current 'language' having no >real definitive spec, and having 3+ incompatible parsers. Yes, I know and I think that is a good thing to have a good configuration language, and it means having a good specification and a good parser. Just I don't think that 6Mb-Python is a good way to write a good parser. Well, I'm sure that I cannot do better (right now), so I don't want to flame anyone with this, just want to show my opinion (shared by many, although) and show the negative points of having Python as a dependence. >The spec for CML2 is out there, and there's even a CML2-in-C project. How advanced? Where is the spec, please? >that project out and then convince Linus to include it. Hard job... Convincing Linus, I mean ;))) >> The kernel should depend just on the compiler and assembler, IMHO. >The right tools for the right job. C is good for the kernel. Python is >good at manipulating strings. Well, IMHO Python is good only in being big and doing things slow, but... why the parser cannot be built over flex/bison?. That way it can be 'pregenerated' and people won't need additional tools to build the kernel. Raśl