From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-dev@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Ext2 directory index: ALS paper and benchmarks
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:22:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16C2EN-0000pz-00@starship.berlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16BjYc-0000hS-00@starship.berlin> <E16Bppx-0000mN-00@starship.berlin> <3C0F7659.1090701@namesys.com>
In-Reply-To: <3C0F7659.1090701@namesys.com>
On December 6, 2001 02:44 pm, Hans Reiser wrote:
> Daniel Phillips wrote:
> >On December 6, 2001 04:56 am, Hans Reiser wrote:
> >>>On December 6, 2001 04:41 am, you wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>ReiserFS is an Htree by your definition in your paper, yes?
> >>>>
> >>>You've got a hash-keyed b*tree over there. The htree is fixed depth.
> >>>
> >>B*trees are fixed depth. B-tree usually means height-balanced.
> >
> >I was relying on definitions like this:
> >
> > B*-tree
> >
> > (data structure)
> >
> > Definition: A B-tree in which nodes are kept 2/3 full by redistributing
> > keys to fill two child nodes, then splitting them into three nodes.
>
> This is the strangest definition I have read. Where'd you get it?
This came from:
http://www.nist.gov/dads/HTML/bstartree.html
Here's another, referring to Knuth's original description:
http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~jhammer/classes/b_star.html
> >To tell the truth, I haven't read your code that closely, sorry, but I got
> >the impression that you're doing rotations for balancing no? If not then
>
> What are rotations?
Re-rooting a (sub)tree to balance it. <Pulls Knuth down from shelf>
For a BTree, rotating means shifting keys between siblings rather than
re-parenting. (The latter would change the path lengths and the result
wouldn't be a BTree.)
So getting back to your earlier remark, when examined under a bright light,
an HTree looks quite a lot like a BTree, the principal difference being the
hash and consequent collision handling. An HTree is therefore a BTree with
wrinkles.
<reads more> But wait, you store references to objects along with keys, I
don't. So where does that leave us?
By the way, how do you handle collisions? I see it has something to do with
generation numbers, but I haven't fully decoded the algorithm.
Fully understanding your code is going to take some time. This would
go faster if I could find the papers mentioned in the comments, can you point
me at those?
--
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-12-06 17:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-12-05 21:26 Daniel Phillips
2001-12-06 3:41 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-06 3:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-06 3:56 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-06 4:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-06 13:44 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-06 17:22 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2001-12-07 0:13 ` [reiserfs-dev] " Hans Reiser
2001-12-07 4:39 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-07 12:36 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-07 14:35 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-07 20:16 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-06 11:27 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-12-07 15:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-07 16:47 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-12-07 17:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-07 18:03 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-12-07 18:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-07 21:10 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-07 21:12 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-07 18:32 ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-07 19:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-07 20:00 ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-08 7:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-08 17:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-08 17:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-09 3:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-09 4:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-09 16:29 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-09 20:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-10 6:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-10 6:49 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-10 8:32 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-10 16:14 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-08 20:28 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-08 21:10 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-12-07 21:01 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-07 22:56 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-12-08 0:15 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-08 19:16 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-12-08 19:55 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-09 2:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-09 2:39 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-08 18:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2001-12-09 2:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-07 3:19 ` Cameron Simpson
2001-12-07 10:54 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-07 14:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-07 20:33 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-07 13:06 ` [reiserfs-dev] " Ragnar Kjørstad
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=E16C2EN-0000pz-00@starship.berlin \
--to=phillips@bonn-fries.net \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=reiser@namesys.com \
--cc=reiserfs-dev@namesys.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®