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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rsf@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [TEST] page tables filling non-highmem
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:59:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16cnOQ-0000LC-00@starship.berlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020215045106.GB26322@holomorphy.com> <20020218032644.GD3511@holomorphy.com> <20020218132757.K7940@athlon.random>
In-Reply-To: <20020218132757.K7940@athlon.random>

On February 18, 2002 01:27 pm, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Agreed, this is why I fighted with Linus and Marcelo trying to convince
> them not to reintroduce the loop crap into the allocator that leads to
> all sort of oom deadlocks because we lack the knowledge on the amount of
> freeable pages (I even re-read the emails about such stuff in the thread
> "VM tweaks" to be sure I was remembering right). OTOH, I really cannot
> complain, they included so much stuff from my tree that even if we
> disagreed on something at the end I don't mind :).  And this is probably
> also why I don't like very much to restart those threads about oom
> deadlocks, I know my way is the only right way (i.e. non deadlock prone)
> possible, and I live with it just fine.
>
> The only way we can learn if a page or a mapping is freeable or not, is
> by trying to free it and by checking if we failed or not. We cannot know
> in another manner, only checking the size of the caches or the amount of
> the swap still unused is totally meaningless and broken. That's
> unfortunate but that's how all linux kernels I know of works, and what I
> did in my tree at the moment is the only possible way to avoid deadlocks
> without having to do a major rework on the accounting side.

Could you describe your page table deadlock-avoidance algorithm in more
detail please?

-- 
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-18 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-15  4:51 William Lee Irwin III
2002-02-15  8:59 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-15  8:56   ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-02-18  1:38   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-02-18  1:59     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18  3:02       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-02-18 12:39       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-02-18  3:26     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-02-18 12:27       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-02-18 12:59         ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-02-18 13:15           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-02-19  0:06             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18  4:25     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-02-19  0:03 ` William Lee Irwin III
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202181914350.5124-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-02-19  0:16     ` William Lee Irwin III

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