From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, wli@holomorphy.com,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Rmap speedup
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:51:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17cXlz-0004y0-00@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D518451.812ED63F@zip.com.au>
On Wednesday 07 August 2002 22:34, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Daniel Phillips wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday 07 August 2002 21:40, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > > > What stands out for me is that rmap is now apparently at parity with
> > > > (virtual scanning) 2.4.19 for a real application, i.e., parallel make.
> > > > I'm sure we'll still see the raw setup/teardown overhead if we make a
> > > > point of going looking for it, but it would be weird if we didn't.
> > > >
> > > > So can we tentatively declare victory of the execution overhead issue?
> > >
> > > err, no. It's still adding half a millisecond or so to each fork/exec/exit
> > > cycle. And that is arising from, apparently, an extra two cache misses
> > > per page. Doubt if we can take this much further.
> >
> > But that overhead did not show up in the kernel build timings you posted,
> > which do a realistic amount of forking. So what is the worry, exactly?
>
> Compilation is compute-intensive, not fork-intensive. Think shell
> scripts, arch, forking servers, ...
OK, so what is an example of a real application that does tons of forking?
We need to get numbers for that. We also need to compare such numbers to
the supposed advantage in swapping.
> > > Is it useful to instantiate the swapped-in page into everyone's
> > > pagetables, save some minor faults?
> >
> > That's what I was thinking, then we just have to figure out how to find
> > all those swapped-out ptes efficiently.
>
> page->pte?
Problem: we went and gave away the page when we swapped it out, but yes,
we could save the pte chain somewhere and maybe that's a win. It would
eat memory just when we're trying to get some back, though.
> It may be a net loss for high sharing levels. Dunno.
High sharing levels are exactly where the swap-in problem is going to
rear its ugly head.
--
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-07 20:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-02 19:42 Daniel Phillips
2002-08-02 20:20 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-02 21:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-03 0:14 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-03 0:31 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-03 0:52 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-03 0:56 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-03 3:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-03 5:24 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-03 18:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-03 21:40 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-03 21:54 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-03 22:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-03 23:55 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-08-04 0:47 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-04 1:01 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-04 14:11 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-04 14:47 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-08-04 16:55 ` Tobias Ringstrom
2002-08-03 23:36 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-04 0:44 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-03 21:05 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-03 21:36 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-03 21:43 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-03 21:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-03 21:24 ` [PATCH] Rmap speedup... call for testing Daniel Phillips
2002-08-03 22:05 ` [PATCH] Rmap speedup Daniel Phillips
2002-08-03 22:39 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-03 22:35 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-04 23:33 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-05 0:35 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-05 7:05 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-05 13:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-05 13:57 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-05 18:16 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-07 18:59 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-07 19:40 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-07 20:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-07 20:34 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-07 20:51 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-08-07 20:54 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-07 22:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-07 22:48 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-07 20:39 ` Daniel Phillips
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