From: Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@7eggert.dyndns.org>
To: greg@enjellic.com, Mike Waychison <mikew@google.com>,
Ram <linuxram@us.ibm.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
leimy2k@gmail.com
Subject: Re: /etc/mtab and per-process namespaces
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:26:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1ETN8K-0001bd-NO@be1.lrz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50rBX-76N-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
Dr. Greg Wettstein <greg@wind.enjellic.com> wrote:
> On Oct 13, 7:10pm, Mike Waychison wrote:
> } Subject: Re: /etc/mtab and per-process namespaces
> I've been pondering the best way to take on the mount problem.
> Current mount binaries seem to fall back to /proc/mounts if /etc/mtab
> is not present. All bets are off of course if the mount binary is
> used for the bind mount since a new /etc/mtab is created.
>
> I'm willing to whack on the mount binary a bit as part of this. The
> obvious solution is to teach mount to act differently if it is running
> in a private namespace. If anybody knows of a good way to detect this
> I would be interested in knowing that. In newns (the namespace sudo
> tool) I'm setting an environment variable for mount to detect on but a
> system level approach would be more generic.
- If named namespaces are to be implemented, you could check for a set
namespace ID. (You could also get rid of the persistent-namespace-daemon.)
- If secure user mounts are implemented, missing privileges will be hint.
Privileged mounts will require a global configuration where a flag can
be set. (BTW: You'll also want to disable user mounts in global namespaces
to catch errors, abuse and exploits)
- Until any of these is implemented, users will run in a private namespace,
so UID != EUID will indicate a private namespace. Unfortunately this is
not secure, but:
- If the proc/mounts information is extended as described below, a different
behaviour wouldn't make sense anymore, would it?
> The other problem is the information exported in /proc/mounts. It
> would seem problematic to modify its format but in order to serve as a
> useful source of information for a modified mount binary it would need
> to contain mount option information. Since this is definitely process
> specific information it would seem to call for something in /proc
> rather than /sysfs. Do we need a new pseudo-file?
- The file format is broken for whitespace in filenames, so changing the
format in these cases by adding quoting won't actually break anything.
- The userspace options (loop device etc) can be encoded in the mount
options field, e.g.
'rw,mount=lo:"/home/Arthur Dent/iso":/dev/loop/42;ns=public,async'.
So if you _want_ to keep the format, you can IMHO do so. Maybe you can
think of something better, who knows? We'll need to upgrade the tools
to use non-broken semantics anyway, so as long as you keep the old file
around, this should be no real problem.
--
Ich danke GMX dafür, die Verwendung meiner Adressen mittels per SPF
verbreiteten Lügen zu sabotieren.
next parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-22 17:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <50rBX-76N-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <50rBX-76N-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-10-22 17:26 ` Bodo Eggert [this message]
2005-10-22 13:23 Dr. Greg Wettstein
2005-10-29 0:06 ` Ram Pai
2005-10-29 10:16 ` Rob Landley
2005-10-31 19:11 ` Ram Pai
2005-10-31 23:27 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-01 0:01 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-01 7:36 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-01 8:44 ` Rob Landley
[not found] <4TkbZ-6KJ-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <4U0uy-33E-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <4U0XK-3Gp-47@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-10-04 21:20 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-10-05 0:14 ` Al Viro
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-10-02 22:08 David Leimbach
2005-10-04 19:14 ` David Leimbach
2005-10-04 19:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-04 19:49 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-10-04 19:52 ` David Leimbach
2005-10-04 19:43 ` Al Viro
2005-10-04 20:07 ` David Leimbach
2005-10-04 20:20 ` Al Viro
2005-10-05 16:29 ` Ram
2005-10-14 2:10 ` Mike Waychison
2005-10-17 0:47 ` Ian Kent
2005-10-20 3:53 ` Rob Landley
2005-10-20 3:42 ` Rob Landley
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