From: Ahmed Shaltout <ahmedshaltout.payment@gmail.com>
To: frederic@kernel.org, tglx@kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [REGRESSION] /proc/stat idle time exceeds wall clock since v7.2
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2026 03:14:22 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E76BE609-83E4-4FB6-88B8-191F7816EFD6@gmail.com> (raw)
Hello,
Since moving from 7.1.8 to 7.2.5 (openSUSE MicroOS kernel-default), the idle
time reported in /proc/stat exceeds the wall-clock time the CPUs have been up
for. Idle alone accrues ~103% of the ceiling, and user+nice+system+idle+iowait
+irq+softirq+steal sums to ~108% of it.
This breaks the common `100 - rate(idle)` derivation of CPU utilisation, which
goes negative on an idle-but-working machine. node_exporter, and anything built
on it, is affected.
#regzbot introduced: v7.1..v7.2
Reproducer
==========
No tooling needed; /proc/uptime shows it directly, since its second field is
idle time and cannot legitimately exceed uptime x nr_cpus:
read -r up idle < /proc/uptime && awk -v u="$up" -v i="$idle" -v c="$(nproc)" \
'BEGIN{printf "idle %.2f%% of ceiling\n", 100*i/(u*c)}'
7.2.5: idle 103.10% of ceiling
7.1.8: idle 89.13% of ceiling
A 60-second delta over the per-CPU lines of /proc/stat, on 7.2.5, 8 CPUs,
ceiling 480.04 CPU-seconds:
user 9.95 2.07%
nice 0.00 0.00%
system 6.56 1.37%
idle 495.44 103.21%
iowait 2.40 0.50%
irq 0.00 0.00%
softirq 2.83 0.59%
steal 0.00 0.00%
BUSY 21.74 4.53%
IDLE 495.44 103.21%
TOTAL 517.18 107.74% excess 37.14 CPU-seconds
The busy modes are consistent with the machine's actual load; the entire
excess is in the idle column. The same measurement on 7.1.8 gives
478.49 / 480.07 = 0.9967.
/proc/stat and /proc/uptime agree with each other exactly on both kernels
(stat_idle / uptime_idle = 1.0000), so proc_stat(5)'s equality clause holds.
What is violated is wall clock alone. That appears to place the problem in
the counter both files read rather than in the /proc plumbing.
Environment
===========
AMD EPYC-Rome, KVM guest (Hetzner Cloud), 8 vCPUs
clocksource: kvm-clock
CONFIG_HZ=1000, CONFIG_HZ_1000=y
CONFIG_NO_HZ_COMMON=y, CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y, CONFIG_NO_HZ=y
CONFIG_VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN=y, CONFIG_VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING=y
CONFIG_SCHED_HRTICK=y
CONFIG_TICK_CPU_ACCOUNTING, CONFIG_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING and
CONFIG_PARAVIRT_TIME_ACCOUNTING are all unset
no nohz_full= on the command line; /sys/devices/system/cpu/nohz_full is empty
cmdline is otherwise identical between the two kernels (psi=1, selinux=1)
The kernel configuration above is byte-identical between 7.1.8 and 7.2.5 for
every option listed.
Already ruled out
=================
- Userspace: the raw /proc/stat and /proc/uptime numbers show it; no
exporter involved.
- Clocksource: kvm-clock on both.
- NTP: offset 0, sync_status 1.
- nohz_full: compiled in but not enabled; the cpumask is empty on both.
- Possible-vs-online CPU miscount: possible == online == nproc == 8. The
measurement above uses the per-CPU cpuN lines only, and the aggregate-
versus-per-CPU deltas were 14, 7 and 18 jiffies.
- Since-boot accumulation: the figures are deltas over a fresh 60s window.
- Steal deferral: kcpustat_idle_stop() defers steal subtraction by one
window by design, but steal is 0.00 here and that deviation is bounded
and self-cancelling in any case.
Suspected origin
================
This is a distro-kernel comparison, not a mainline bisect -- I have not
bisected and cannot currently do so on these machines, so please treat the
attribution below as a guess rather than a finding.
The only v7.2 change I can find touching this path is the tick/nohz series
merged as timers-nohz-2026-06-13 ("tick/sched: Refactor idle cputime
accounting"). The behaviour matches the version boundary exactly: absent in
7.1.8, present in 7.2.5. I note the series was motivated by idle going
*backwards*, i.e. the opposite direction from what I am seeing, so this may
well be an unrelated interaction.
I also checked whether this might be an intended change in what /proc/stat
promises, and could not find evidence that it is: Documentation/filesystems/
proc.rst is unchanged between v7.1 and v7.2, the series touches no
Documentation/ file, and proc_stat(5) carries no "since Linux 7.2" note. If
the semantics did change deliberately, a pointer to where that is recorded
would be welcome and I will adjust our side instead.
Happy to test patches or gather more data -- these are long-running machines
and the effect is present continuously, so it is easy to measure.
Thanks,
Shaltout,
next reply other threads:[~2026-09-19 23:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-19 23:14 Ahmed Shaltout [this message]
2026-09-22 12:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-22 15:53 ` Ahmed Shaltout
2026-09-29 13:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-30 4:58 ` Ahmed Shaltout
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