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From: Oleg Drokin <green@linuxhacker.ru>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	mingo@redhat.com, arjan@linux.intel.com,
	"J . Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>
Subject: Re: initialize a mutex into locked state?
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:24:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EDFA75CD-A3F5-4AA7-9FA2-7B7D61B6AAED@linuxhacker.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160617141912.GS30154@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>


On Jun 17, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:14:10AM -0400, Oleg Drokin wrote:
>> 
>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 4:25 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 02:23:35PM -0400, Oleg Drokin wrote:
>>>> Hello!
>>>> 
>>>> To my surprise I found out that it's not possible to initialise a mutex into
>>>> a locked state.
>>>> I discussed it with Arjan and apparently there's no fundamental reason
>>>> not to allow this.
>>> 
>>> There is. A mutex _must_ have an owner. If you can initialize it in
>>> locked state, you could do so statically, ie. outside of the context of
>>> a task.
>> 
>> What's wrong with disallowing only static initializers, but allowing dynamic ones?
>> Then there is a clear owner.
> 
> At which point, what wrong with the simple:
> 
> 	mutex_init(&m);
> 	mutex_lock(&m);
> 
> Sequence? Its obvious, has clear semantics and doesn't extend the API.

The problem is:

spin_lock(somelock);
structure = some_internal_list_lookup(list);
if (structure)
	goto out;

init_new_structure(new_structure);
mutex_init(&new_structure->s_mutex);
mutex_lock(&new_structure->s_mutex);  // XXX CANNOT DO THIS UNDER SPINLOCK!

list_add(list, new_structure->s_list);
structure = new_structure;
out:
spin_unlock(somelock);
return structure;

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-17 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-15 18:23 Oleg Drokin
2016-06-17  8:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-17 14:14   ` Oleg Drokin
2016-06-17 14:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-17 14:24       ` Oleg Drokin [this message]
2016-06-17 14:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-17 14:40           ` Oleg Drokin
2016-06-17 14:42             ` Jeff Layton
2016-06-17 14:54               ` Oleg Drokin
2016-06-17 14:59                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2016-06-17 14:59             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]         ` <CAC0gvwFhyahkP9M7Ktfd0GOv8CJbkeVegSfc57XpEUk8qAGA1w@mail.gmail.com>
2016-06-17 14:46           ` Oleg Drokin

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