From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v13 26/35] x86/fred: FRED entry/exit and dispatch code
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 11:26:43 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F6CF8AB8-F5DB-44BD-B8A4-1A76E02CDCFA@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA1PR11MB673472A25E72022F68882869A884A@SA1PR11MB6734.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On December 6, 2023 11:19:26 AM PST, "Li, Xin3" <xin3.li@intel.com> wrote:
>> >>> + case X86_TRAP_OF:
>> >>> + exc_overflow(regs);
>> >>> + return;
>> >>> +
>> >>> + /* INT3 */
>> >>> + case X86_TRAP_BP:
>> >>> + exc_int3(regs);
>> >>> + return;
>> >> ... neither OF nor BP will ever enter fred_intx() because they're
>> >> type SWEXC not SWINT.
>> > Per FRED spec 5.0, section 7.3 Software Interrupts and Related Instructions:
>> > INT n (opcode CD followed by an immediate byte): There are 256 such
>> > software interrupt instructions, one for each value n of the immediate
>> > byte (0–255).
>> >
>> > And appendix B Event Stack Levels:
>> > If the event is an execution of INT n (opcode CD n for 8-bit value n),
>> > the event stack level is 0. The event type is 4 (software interrupt)
>> > and the vector is n.
>> >
>> > So int $0x4 and int $0x3 (use asm(".byte 0xCD, 0x03")) get here.
>> >
>> > But into (0xCE) and int3 (0xCC) do use event type SWEXC.
>> >
>> > BTW, into is NOT allowed in 64-bit mode but "int $0x4" is allowed.
>>
>> There is certainly fun to be had with CD 03 and CD 04 byte patterns, but if you
>> meant to mean those here, then the comments are wrong.
>>
>> Vectors 3 and 4 are installed with DPL3 because that is necessary to make CC and
>> CE function in userspace. It also suggests that the SWINT vs SWEXC distinction
>> was retrofitted to architecture after the 286, because exceptions don't check DPL
>> and ICEBP delivers #DB from userspace even when Vector 1 has a DPL of 0.
>>
>> While CC is for most cases indistinguishable from CD 03, CE behaves entirely
>> differently to CD 04. CD 04 doesn't #UD in 64bit mode, and will trigger
>> exc_overflow() irrespective of the state of EFLAGS.OF.
>>
>>
>> The SDM goes out of it's way to say not to use the CD 03 byte pattern (and it
>> does take effort to emit this byte pattern - e.g. GAS will silently translate "int $3"
>> to "int3"), and there's no plausible way software is using CD 04 in place of CE.
>>
>> So why do we care about containing to make mistakes of the IDT era work in a
>> FRED world?
>
>First, I agree with you because it makes things simple and neat.
>
>However, the latest SDM and FRED spec 5.0 both doesn't disallow it, so it
>becomes an OS implementation choice.
>
>>
>> Is there anything (other than perhaps the selftests) which would even notice?
>
>I'm just conservative :)
>
>If a user app can do it with IDT, we should still allow it when FRED is
>enabled. But if all key stakeholders don't care whatever gets broken
>due to the change and agree to change it.
>
>> >>> + instrumentation_end();
>> >>> + irqentry_exit(regs, state);
>> >>> + } else {
>> >>> + common_interrupt(regs, vector);
>> >>> + }
>> >>> +}
>> >>> +
>> >>> +static noinstr void fred_exception(struct pt_regs *regs, unsigned
>> >>> +long error_code) {
>> >>> + /* Optimize for #PF. That's the only exception which matters
>> >>> +performance
>> >> wise */
>> >>> + if (likely(regs->fred_ss.vector == X86_TRAP_PF)) {
>> >>> + exc_page_fault(regs, error_code);
>> >>> + return;
>> >>> + }
>> >>> +
>> >>> + switch (regs->fred_ss.vector) {
>> >>> + case X86_TRAP_DE: return exc_divide_error(regs);
>> >>> + case X86_TRAP_DB: return fred_exc_debug(regs);
>> >>> + case X86_TRAP_BP: return exc_int3(regs);
>> >>> + case X86_TRAP_OF: return exc_overflow(regs);
>> >> Depending on what you want to do with BP/OF vs fred_intx(), this may
>> >> need adjusting.
>> >>
>> >> If you are cross-checking type and vector, then these should be
>> >> rejected for not being of type HWEXC.
>> > You're right, the event type needs to be SWEXC for into and int3.
>> >
>> > However, would it be overkilling? Assuming hardware and VMM are sane.
>>
>> You either care about cross checking, or not. Right now, this patch is a mix of the
>> two approaches.
>>
>> In my opinion, cross-checking is the better approach, because it means that
>> violations of the assumptions get noticed more quickly, and hopefully by
>> whomever is working on the new feature which alters the assumptions.
>
>Yeah, I can make the change.
>
>Thanks!
> Xin
>
The intent is to not break userspace even if userspace does something fundamentally stupid.
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2023-12-05 10:49 [PATCH v13 00/35] x86: enable FRED for x86-64 Xin Li
2023-12-05 10:49 ` [PATCH v13 01/35] x86/cpufeatures,opcode,msr: Add the WRMSRNS instruction support Xin Li
2023-12-11 5:14 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-01-02 15:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-02 22:06 ` Li, Xin3
2024-01-03 11:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-25 18:21 ` [tip: x86/fred] " tip-bot2 for Xin Li
2023-12-05 10:49 ` [PATCH v13 02/35] x86/entry: Remove idtentry_sysvec from entry_{32,64}.S Xin Li
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2023-12-05 10:49 ` [PATCH v13 03/35] x86/trapnr: Add event type macros to <asm/trapnr.h> Xin Li
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2023-12-05 10:49 ` [PATCH v13 04/35] Documentation/x86/64: Add a documentation for FRED Xin Li
2024-01-25 18:21 ` [tip: x86/fred] Documentation/x86/64: Add " tip-bot2 for Xin Li
2023-12-05 10:49 ` [PATCH v13 05/35] x86/fred: Add Kconfig option for FRED (CONFIG_X86_FRED) Xin Li
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2023-12-05 10:49 ` [PATCH v13 06/35] x86/cpufeatures: Add the CPU feature bit for FRED Xin Li
2024-01-25 18:21 ` [tip: x86/fred] " tip-bot2 for H. Peter Anvin (Intel)
2023-12-05 10:49 ` [PATCH v13 07/35] x86/fred: Disable FRED support if CONFIG_X86_FRED is disabled Xin Li
2024-01-22 13:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-25 18:21 ` [tip: x86/fred] " tip-bot2 for H. Peter Anvin (Intel)
2023-12-05 10:49 ` [PATCH v13 08/35] x86/fred: Disable FRED by default in its early stage Xin Li
2024-01-22 13:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-25 18:21 ` [tip: x86/fred] " tip-bot2 for Xin Li
2024-01-31 7:21 ` [tip: x86/fred] x86/fred: Add a fred= cmdline param tip-bot2 for Xin Li
2023-12-05 10:49 ` [PATCH v13 09/35] x86/opcode: Add ERET[US] instructions to the x86 opcode map Xin Li
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2024-01-31 7:21 ` tip-bot2 for H. Peter Anvin (Intel)
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2023-12-05 10:49 ` [PATCH v13 10/35] x86/objtool: Teach objtool about ERET[US] Xin Li
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2023-12-05 10:50 ` [PATCH v13 11/35] x86/cpu: Add X86_CR4_FRED macro Xin Li
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2024-01-31 7:21 ` tip-bot2 for H. Peter Anvin (Intel)
2024-01-31 21:14 ` tip-bot2 for H. Peter Anvin (Intel)
2023-12-05 10:50 ` [PATCH v13 12/35] x86/cpu: Add MSR numbers for FRED configuration Xin Li
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2024-01-31 7:21 ` tip-bot2 for H. Peter Anvin (Intel)
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2023-12-05 10:50 ` [PATCH v13 13/35] x86/ptrace: Cleanup the definition of the pt_regs structure Xin Li
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2024-01-31 7:21 ` tip-bot2 for Xin Li
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2024-02-03 23:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-02-06 19:04 ` Xin Li
2024-02-06 20:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-02-06 21:10 ` H.J. Lu
2023-12-05 10:50 ` [PATCH v13 14/35] x86/ptrace: Add FRED additional information to " Xin Li
2024-01-25 18:21 ` [tip: x86/fred] " tip-bot2 for Xin Li
2024-01-31 7:21 ` tip-bot2 for Xin Li
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2023-12-05 10:50 ` [PATCH v13 15/35] x86/fred: Add a new header file for FRED definitions Xin Li
2024-01-25 18:21 ` [tip: x86/fred] " tip-bot2 for H. Peter Anvin (Intel)
2024-01-31 7:21 ` tip-bot2 for H. Peter Anvin (Intel)
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2023-12-05 10:50 ` [PATCH v13 16/35] x86/fred: Reserve space for the FRED stack frame Xin Li
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2024-01-31 7:21 ` tip-bot2 for H. Peter Anvin (Intel)
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2023-12-05 10:50 ` [PATCH v13 17/35] x86/fred: Update MSR_IA32_FRED_RSP0 during task switch Xin Li
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2024-01-31 7:21 ` tip-bot2 for H. Peter Anvin (Intel)
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2023-12-05 10:50 ` [PATCH v13 18/35] x86/fred: Disallow the swapgs instruction when FRED is enabled Xin Li
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2023-12-05 10:50 ` [PATCH v13 19/35] x86/fred: No ESPFIX needed " Xin Li
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2023-12-05 10:50 ` [PATCH v13 22/35] x86/idtentry: Incorporate definitions/declarations of the FRED entries Xin Li
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