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From: "Grosen, Mark" <mgrosen@ti.com>
To: Ohad Ben-Cohen <ohad@wizery.com>, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Cc: davinci-linux-open-source 
	<davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	"linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: RE: [RFC 0/8] Introducing a generic AMP/IPC framework
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:22:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FFF198FBBF957F4393BA834040FEFFA202EDA3@DFLE35.ent.ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=sFtwam29i4TZdi=RO7BoytTTdrw@mail.gmail.com>

> From: Ohad Ben-Cohen
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 6:12 PM
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org> wrote:
> > Instead of devising a new firmware format, we decided
> > to just stick with elf and parse the headers in the kernel because we
> > needed them for authentication anyway. Is this reason enough to move to
> > an ELF format instead?
> 
> I think that consolidation of code is enough reason to make an effort.
> I know that our firmware format was chosen for simplicity, but I'm not
> sure if we have the tools yet to build standard ELF files for the
> remote processors (IIRC it's in the works though). I'll let Mark
> comment this one.

Yes, we are converting from "standard" ELF to the simple format. I've used the
GNU binutils to work with our ELF files. There were a few motivations:

1. Concern about complexity of parsing ELF files in kernel; however, the PIL
implementation looks pretty clean to me.

2. We added a special section (resource table) that is interpreted as part
of the loading process. The tool that generates our simple format just
recognizes a named section (".resource_table"), so perhaps that could be
done with the PIL ELF loader.

3. Smaller firmware file sizes. Our ELF files are large relative to the
payload, but this might be addressed by a better ELF "strip" utility.

> > Another difference is inter-processor dependencies. For example, on
> > msm8660 the modem can't boot until the dsp has been booted. I suppose we
> > could hide this detail in the platform specific get() implementation by
> > calling rproc_get() on the dependent processor (hopefully no locking
> > issues arise). I'd rather have it built into the core though as it isn't
> > really specific to the hardware.
> 
> No problems, I'm sure we can solve this one easily.
> 
> > If we can resolve these differences I think we can easily support remote
> > processor boot on MSM via remoteproc.
> 
> That'd be very cool, I sure do hope we can work together.

Yes, I hope we can merge our efforts on PIL and remoteproc since they seem
quite close in function and design.

Mark

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-27 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-21  7:18 Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-21  7:18 ` [RFC 1/8] drivers: add generic remoteproc framework Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-22 17:55   ` Randy Dunlap
2011-06-22 19:11     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-27 20:49   ` Grant Likely
2011-06-27 21:52     ` Grosen, Mark
2011-06-27 22:24       ` Grant Likely
2011-06-27 23:54         ` Grosen, Mark
2011-06-27 23:29     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-27 23:35       ` Grant Likely
2011-06-28 21:55       ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-28 21:41     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-21  7:18 ` [RFC 2/8] remoteproc: add omap implementation Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-22 10:05   ` Will Newton
2011-06-22 10:50     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-27 21:00   ` Grant Likely
2011-06-29 15:04     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-29 15:31       ` Grant Likely
2011-06-21  7:18 ` [RFC 3/8] omap: add carveout memory support for remoteproc Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-21  7:18 ` [RFC 4/8] omap: add remoteproc devices Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-21  7:18 ` [RFC 5/8] remoteproc: add davinci implementation Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-23 15:27   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-06-24  4:25     ` Grosen, Mark
2011-06-24 15:13       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-06-24 15:43         ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-06-27 18:31           ` Grosen, Mark
2011-07-05  5:29             ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-07-05 16:54               ` Grosen, Mark
2011-07-05  5:34             ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-07-05 16:54               ` Grosen, Mark
2011-07-06  4:36                 ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-06-27 18:20         ` Grosen, Mark
2011-06-28  9:36           ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-06-21  7:18 ` [RFC 6/8] davinci: da850: add remoteproc dsp device Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-28 10:18   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-06-21  7:18 ` [RFC 7/8] drivers: introduce rpmsg, a remote-processor messaging bus Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-09 17:12   ` Pavel Machek
2011-07-19  5:38     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-22  2:42   ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-22  3:11     ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-22 10:46     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-09-14 18:38       ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-09-15  0:12         ` Rusty Russell
2011-09-15 14:56           ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-27 22:21   ` Grant Likely
2011-06-28 22:46     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-28 22:51       ` Grant Likely
2011-06-28 23:00         ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-29 15:43           ` Grant Likely
2011-07-01 15:13             ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-28 23:44   ` Randy Dunlap
2011-06-29  6:30     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-29 11:59       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-29 12:29         ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-21  7:18 ` [RFC 8/8] rpmsg: add omap host backend Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-21  7:50 ` [RFC 0/8] Introducing a generic AMP/IPC framework Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-21  9:30   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-21 14:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-21 15:54   ` Grant Likely
2011-06-22 11:41   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-22 13:05     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-22 13:09       ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-23 12:23 ` Michael Williamson
2011-06-23 16:27   ` Grosen, Mark
2011-06-23 18:46     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-24  4:32       ` Grosen, Mark
2011-06-24 20:16 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-06-26  1:11   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-26  1:17     ` Brian Swetland
2011-06-27 21:22     ` Grosen, Mark [this message]
2011-06-28 11:26       ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-06-28 11:36         ` Brian Swetland

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