From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:33:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:32:54 -0400 Received: from mail2.aracnet.com ([216.99.193.35]:5389 "EHLO mail2.aracnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:32:42 -0400 From: "M. Edward Borasky" To: "Michael Bacarella" , Subject: RE: [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by lifein prison Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:33:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010930201738.A2084@sync.nyct.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org I personally do not have a certification and I personally find my career paths limited as a result. This is something I plan to rectify; it's simply a matter of time, money and a willingness on my part to do the work. I suggest that you look at it the same way, rather than knocking the certification process or employers who require it. I have chosen a mathematical / scientific / programmer career path rather than a system / network administration career path, so I will most likely seek an MSCD or perhaps the Red Hat equivalent if there is one. There are a great many more *applicants* for jobs than there are jobs, and lack of a certification or presence of illegal substances in an applicant's urine are *legal* ways of eliminating some of these applicants, whereas skin color, gender or age are not. Deal with it; I have. -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, Chief Scientist, Borasky Research http://www.borasky-research.net http://www.aracnet.com/~znmeb mailto:znmeb@borasky-research.net mailto:znmeb@aracnet.com Q: How do you tell when a pineapple is ready to eat? A: It picks up its knife and fork. > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org > [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of Michael > Bacarella > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 5:18 PM > To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by > lifein prison > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 05:24:00PM -0600, D. Stimits wrote: > > > wankers pretending to be sysadmins, driving the wages down > and replacing > > > clued people with illiterate trash. Getting rid of script kiddies is > > > nice, but fsckwits who are directly responsible for current situation > > > should be first against the wall. > > > > Don't forget the management that is interested in paper skills, rather > > than ability to do the job. Unless you can add some things on paper, > > like particular certifications, you can't even get an interview. > > Quick survey: > > How many people here really want to work at a company where > management tosses resumes that don't say MCSE or CCNA or RHCE? > > --- > Michael Bacarella > Technical Staff / System Development, > New York Connect.Net, Ltd. > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > >