From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261639AbUKITbI (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:31:08 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261640AbUKITbI (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:31:08 -0500 Received: from mail1.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.168]:7950 "EHLO mail1.webmaster.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261639AbUKITbA (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:31:00 -0500 From: "David Schwartz" To: , "Dmitry Torokhov" Cc: "Linux Kernel Mailing List" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_Rigo_LKML?= Subject: RE: GPL Violation of 'sveasoft' with GPL Linux Kernel/Busybox +code Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:30:54 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <1099993648.15462.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Tue, 09 Nov 2004 11:07:23 -0800 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Tue, 09 Nov 2004 11:07:25 -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > On Maw, 2004-11-09 at 02:32, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > > "The $20 USD subscription fee includes unlimited priority support, > > full access to the Sveasoft forums, and unlimited access to new > > firmware versions and upgrades." > > > > So it looks like "if you exersize your right for the software in quesion > > I terminate the contract we have entered into" as opposed to "I will not > > extend your contract beyond initial term". > > > > Isn't that an additional restriction? My rights for updates are revoked > > if I distribute GPLed code. > > Those aren't GPL granted rights. The updates/support contract is a > private contractual matter between Sveasoft and its members. They don't > stop you redistributing the GPL code you received. They don't stop you, they just restrict you. Look, this really is simple. When the GPL talks about "additional restrictions", it doesn't mean the restrictions found in the GPL. It means restrictions found elsewhere, such as in private contracts. (Where else would the restrictions be?!) DS