From: "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>
To: "David D. Hagood" <wowbagger@sktc.net>
Cc: "linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: Dumb question: Why are exceptions such as SIGSEGV not logged
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:15:29 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKEEBAFDAA.davids@webmaster.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F3EB8FA.1080605@sktc.net>
> Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> > Consider this code:
> >
> > char *foo = 0;
> > sigset(SIGSEGV,SIG_IGNORE);
> > for(;;) { *foo = '\5'; }
> >
> > Your logfiles just got DoS'ed....
> Why not then just log uncaught exceptions?
Because deliberately creating an uncaught exception is a perfectly sane,
reasonable thing to do with well-defined semantics. Applications should feel
free to do such reasonable things without getting complaints from the system
administrator that their log is being flooded with garbage.
There is no mechanism that is guaranteed to terminate a process other than
sending yourself an exception that is not caught. So in cases where you must
guarantee that your process terminates, it is perfectly reasonable to send
yourself a SIGILL.
FreeBSD logs any number of normal things that sane, reasonable processes do
and it's very annoying. A very annoying example is FreeBSD's desire to log
calls to 'wait' functions with 'SIGCHLD' ignored. How else can portable
programs say, "I want you to automatically reap my zombies if you can, but
otherwise, I'll reap them if needed by calling waitpid(WNOHANG) every once
in a while".
DS
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-08-18 9:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-16 20:10 Michael Frank
2003-08-16 20:49 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-08-16 21:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-16 23:06 ` David D. Hagood
2003-08-16 23:17 ` Doug McNaught
2003-08-16 23:41 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2003-08-17 8:17 ` Russell King
2003-08-16 23:49 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-17 20:54 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2003-08-18 4:28 ` Michael Frank
2003-08-18 9:15 ` David Schwartz [this message]
2003-08-19 2:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-08-19 13:27 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-08-19 19:28 ` David Schwartz
2003-08-19 19:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-08-19 20:01 ` David Schwartz
2003-08-18 14:31 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-18 17:52 ` Michael Frank
[not found] <lg0i.6yo.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <lgjJ.6Oo.5@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <lilr.p2.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <livc.wX.17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-08-17 12:43 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
[not found] ` <lj7O.14a.1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-08-17 12:52 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-08-17 13:09 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <lOll.3Jp.19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-08-18 9:34 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-08-18 17:26 ` David Schwartz
[not found] <lv8Y.2XU.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <lv8Y.2XU.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <lv8Y.2XU.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <lviD.35d.3@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <lviD.35d.1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <lvC1.3p9.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-08-17 14:29 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-08-18 1:56 Hank Leininger
2003-08-18 20:50 Hank Leininger
2003-08-18 21:02 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-18 21:18 ` Hank Leininger
2003-08-18 21:25 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-18 22:12 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-18 22:39 ` David Schwartz
2003-08-18 22:44 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-18 22:53 ` David Schwartz
2003-08-19 6:54 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-08-19 14:52 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-08-19 18:51 ` David Schwartz
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