mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "John Chris Wren" <jcwren@jcwren.com>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: select() - Linux vs. BSD
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:47:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <NDBBKBJHGFJMEMHPOPEGIEBCCIAA.jcwren@jcwren.com> (raw)


>
> lost@l-w.net wrote:
> > Of course, not looking at the sets upon a zero return is a
> fairly obvious
> > optimization as there is little point in doing so.
>
> No; a fairly obvious optimisation is to avoid calling FD_ZERO if you
> can clear the bits individually when you test them.
>
> When you examine the sets, you can clear each bit that you examine and
> then you know you have a zero set.  Then you can set only the relevant
> bits for the next call to select().
>
> If you can't rely on the sets being cleared on a timeout, then you
> will have to call FD_ZERO in that case, or you will have to go through
> the list of descriptors and clear them individually.  (This can be
> avoided but it means keeping track of state between successive calls
> to select()).  This is contrary to the non-timeout case, where you
> stop checking bits when you have counted N of them set.
>
> So you see, there is a handy optimisation if you can assume the sets
> are zeroed on timeout.
>

I would have said just the opposite.  That if it you have a large number of
handles you're waiting on, and you have to go back through and set the bits
everytime you timeout that you would incur a larger overhead.  From the
perspective of my application, it would have been more efficient to not zero
them (I was waiting on a number of serial channels, and the timeout was used
to periodically pump more data to the serial channel.  When I received data,
I buffered it, and another thread took care of processing it).

It all really depends on the coding style of your program, and what you need
to do on a timeout.  Certain types of applications would benefit from
non-zero'ing, others from zeroing.

All what is *most* important is that the behavior is clearly understood and
well documented.  A google search made it pretty clear that it was a source
of confusion.

--John


             reply	other threads:[~2001-06-03  2:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-03  2:47 John Chris Wren [this message]
2001-06-03  3:31 ` Mike Castle
2001-06-03  7:52 ` David Schwartz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-01 17:33 Andries.Brouwer
2001-06-01  8:16 Andries.Brouwer
2001-06-01 16:38 ` lost
2001-06-02 21:46   ` Jamie Lokier
2001-06-03  2:13     ` lost
2001-05-29 15:55 John Chris Wren
2001-05-29 17:34 ` Mike Castle
2001-05-29 19:51 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-29 20:50   ` lost
2001-05-29 21:06 ` dean gaudet
2001-05-31  1:40 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=NDBBKBJHGFJMEMHPOPEGIEBCCIAA.jcwren@jcwren.com \
    --to=jcwren@jcwren.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®