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From: "Laramie Leavitt" <lar@cs.york.ac.uk>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: 2.4.1-pre1 breaks XFree 4.0.2 and "w"
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:19:49 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <NEBBKCNHIKGLMACGICIGKEKDCCAA.lar@cs.york.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010112195715.A30496@athlon.random>

> On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 10:35:24AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > Andreas argument was that earlier kernels weren't consistent, and as
> > such we shouldn't even bother to try to make newer kernels consistent. 
> > We would be better off reporting our internal inconsistencies the way
> > earlier kernels did - the kernel would be confusing, but at least it
> > would be consistently confusing ;)
> 
> The earlier kernels were 98% consistent in providing the 
> "cpu_has" information
> via /proc/cpuinfo that is true information too.
> 
> What I am suggesting is to fix the few places to make the 
> /proc/cpuinfo 100%
> consistent reporting "cpu_has", and to provide the "can_I_use" 
> information in
> another place (for example with /proc/osinfo or a new "osflags" row in
> /proc/cpuinfo).
> 
> This way we are 100% consistent and we don't lose the "cpu_has" 
> information.
> 

Yes, but why?  If the features cannot be used by userspace, then 
2.2 should be fixed to use the current model.  If someone wants
the information about the cpu that is not provided by the 'cpu_allows'
(My view of 'can_I_use' ) can't they just do a 'cpuid' and get
it for themselves anyway?

Laramie
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-12 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-11  4:58 Floating point broken between 2.4.0-ac4 and -ac5? junio
2001-01-11 12:42 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 13:31   ` 2.4.1-pre1 breaks XFree 4.0.2 and "w" Udo A. Steinberg
2001-01-10 17:15     ` Ingo Oeser
2001-01-10 17:07       ` Udo A. Steinberg
2001-01-10 20:00         ` Jonathan Hudson
2001-01-11  8:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-11 12:54           ` Alan Cox
     [not found]         ` <200101110841.AAA01652@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-01-11 10:05           ` Udo A. Steinberg
2001-01-11 10:11             ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-11 10:31               ` Udo A. Steinberg
2001-01-11 17:36                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-11 17:46                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-11 17:48                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-11 18:53                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-12  2:08                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12  3:45                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-12  4:26                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 16:02                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-12 16:42                             ` Richard A Nelson
2001-01-12 17:05                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-12 17:35                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 17:54                                   ` Alan Cox
2001-01-12 18:35                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 18:57                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-12 19:19                                         ` Laramie Leavitt [this message]
2001-01-12 20:39                                         ` Mark Hahn
2001-01-12 18:24                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-15 20:33                           ` [PATCH] i386/setup.c cpuinfo notsc Hugh Dickins
2001-01-15 20:48                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-15 21:38                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-01-15 21:41                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-15 21:51                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-01-16  3:47                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-15 21:34                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-01-18 16:39                             ` [PATCH] udf writepage UnlockPage Hugh Dickins
2001-01-28 14:43                               ` Hugh Dickins
2001-01-12  4:28                       ` 2.4.1-pre1 breaks XFree 4.0.2 and "w" TimO
2001-01-12  6:06                       ` Udo A. Steinberg
2001-01-12  9:47                       ` Harold Oga
2001-01-11 17:16     ` Floating point broken between 2.4.0-ac4 and -ac5? junio
2001-01-12  3:27 ` Aaron Lehmann

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