From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:51:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:50:57 -0400 Received: from shell.ca.us.webchat.org ([216.152.64.152]:27580 "EHLO shell.webmaster.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:50:39 -0400 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Lew Wolfgang" Cc: Subject: RE: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself. Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:50:36 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Lew Wolfgang wrote: > It is something that I read somewhere. If memory serves, Microsoft > will allow two installs on the same CD-key. Note that this is > different from the old MS key manager, all you had to do there > was enter the CD-key. There were no real-time checks on how > many times it was installed. You mean they will allow to overlapping installs. That is, you have permission to run the software on two machines. This says nothing about their enforcement scheme. > This http://two.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin2/flo?y=eBwm0Hm1h0U0c7G0A4 > says, "In the case of Office XP, people can install the software on two > computers, such as a desktop PC and a laptop. But the second > installation requires a phone call to obtain the 44-key unlock code." So the first time you install it, you can do it the easy way. After that, you need to call them to get the code. For all we know, it's as simple as, "I'm the purchaser and I'd like to install it again". > The question remains, "How many times will Microsoft let you install?" > I'll test the process starting on Monday. I have an Office XP that > has been installed once. I'll try it again without giving my name > and keep trying until I reach the limit. I'll say that I'm having > problems with my disk crashing or something. I'll report my findings > here. That's precisely the question, and we have no answer. It is becoming more and more obvious to me that statements such as "If the CD key is used again they just refuse to send the final key" are sheer speculation mixed with a small dose of FUD. More likely, Microsoft will display escalating suspicion with each install, especially if they are in close time proximity or widely varying physical locations (or other suspicious patterns). If they find out that a key is definitely being abused, they will stop issuing unlock codes for it. In other words, they will cause great inconvenience for pirates and little inconvenience for legitimate users. DS