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From: Ryan Chen <ryan_chen@aspeedtech.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au>, Andrew Jeffery <andrew@aj.id.au>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"linux-clk@vger.kernel.org" <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-aspeed@lists.ozlabs.org" <linux-aspeed@lists.ozlabs.org>,
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	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v9 1/3] dt-binding: clock: ast2700: modify soc0/1 clock define
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 09:49:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <OS8PR06MB75411AE082C9630314966F2AF2C32@OS8PR06MB7541.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2b64a9d7-7048-4842-9cc1-fe23f5abdd00@kernel.org>

> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/3] dt-binding: clock: ast2700: modify soc0/1
> >> clock define
> >>
> >> On 24/02/2025 10:55, Ryan Chen wrote:
> >>> -remove redundant SOC0_CLK_UART_DIV13:
> >>> SOC0_CLK_UART_DIV13 is not use at clk-ast2700.c, the clock source
> >>> tree is uart clk src -> uart_div_table -> uart clk.
> >>>
> >>> -Change SOC0_CLK_HPLL_DIV_AHB to SOC0_CLK_AHBMUX:
> >>> modify clock tree implement.
> >>> older CLK_AHB use mpll_div_ahb/hpll_div_ahb to be ahb clock source.
> >>> mpll->mpll_div_ahb
> >>>                   -> clk_ahb
> >>> hpll->hpll_div_ahb
> >>
> >>
> >> I can barely understand it and from the pieces I got, it does not
> >> explain need for ABI break.
> >>
> >
> > #1. SCU0_CLK_UART_DIV13 is redundant, it does not impact ABI break
> 
> You did not explain how it does not impact. Clock was exported, there was a
> user and now there is no clock. User stops working. ABI break.
> 

Sorry, SCU0_CLK_UART_DIV13 was defined, but was never referenced in any upstream device trees.
Since there is no in-tree usage of `SCU0_CLK_UART_DIV13`, its removal does not cause an ABI break.

> > #2. Change SOC0_CLK_HPLL_DIV_AHB to SOC0_CLK_AHBMUX Older
> implement
> > where `mpll_div_ahb` and `hpll_div_ahb` were **hardcoded dividers** for
> AHB.
> > In **the new approach (v8)**, I refactored the clock tree to clock tree.
> 
> I still cannot parse sentences like "refactoring A to A". It's meaningless to me.
> 
> > It should be ABI-safe change
> 
> No, you do not understand the ABI. You removed a clock ID, that's the ABI
> change.
> 
> Otherwise explain how this is not changing ABI.
> 
> 
> >
> > Or you want to keep original SOC0_CLK_HPLL_DIV_AHB define and then add
> SOC0_CLK_AHBMUX.
> > To be 1st patch, then 2n patch remove redundant
> SOC0_CLK_HPLL_DIV_AHB?
> 
> If you break the ABI you need to clearly explain why. We have long
> conversations and you still did not say why.
> 
Sorry, my point will be following steps to avoid potential ABI issues, 
I can modify the patch series as follows:
1. **Patch 1:** Add `SOC0_CLK_AHBMUX` without removing `SOC0_CLK_HPLL_DIV_AHB`.
2. **Patch 2:** Finally remove `SOC0_CLK_HPLL_DIV_AHB`.

Let me know if you prefer this approach.


> 
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-25  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-24  9:55 [PATCH v9 0/3] Add support for AST2700 clk driver Ryan Chen
2025-02-24  9:55 ` [PATCH v9 1/3] dt-binding: clock: ast2700: modify soc0/1 clock define Ryan Chen
2025-02-24 10:10   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-25  0:41     ` Ryan Chen
2025-02-25  7:54       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-25  9:49         ` Ryan Chen [this message]
2025-02-25 13:13           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-26  5:10             ` Ryan Chen
2025-02-26  9:52               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-27  8:04                 ` Ryan Chen
2025-02-24  9:55 ` [PATCH v9 2/3] reset: aspeed: register AST2700 reset auxiliary bus device Ryan Chen
2025-02-24 10:12   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-24 10:15     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-24 16:27       ` Philipp Zabel
2025-02-25  2:20         ` Ryan Chen
2025-02-25  7:51           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-24  9:55 ` [PATCH v9 3/3] clk: aspeed: add AST2700 clock driver Ryan Chen
2025-03-06 18:01   ` kernel test robot

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