From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 8 May 2001 22:47:01 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 8 May 2001 22:46:52 -0400 Received: from shell.cyberus.ca ([209.195.95.7]:34986 "EHLO shell.cyberus.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 8 May 2001 22:46:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:45:17 -0400 (EDT) From: jamal To: "David S. Miller" cc: , , Sally Floyd , , Subject: Re: ECN: Volunteers needed In-Reply-To: <15096.44626.349846.309176@pizda.ninka.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 8 May 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > > I believe it would only be prudent to actually send out these messages > starting at the moment ECN is officially standard. > > This was the big argument I was running into from sites, "well it > isn't standard yet, when it is we'll do something about it". The > larger sites like to avoid updates until absolutely necessary. > > If we are to improve ECN deployment, we should understand the > priorities of the people who run the sites which stand in the way > of our doing so. > Sally new draft: ftp://ftp.normos.org/ietf/internet-drafts/draft-floyd-tcp-reset-00.txt builds a strong case against the RST issue and maybe used to point to problems despite ECN. But you are right, it will be stronger and wiser to wait until this is standardized before paying a visit to the site owners. Any one wishing to volunteer, please still send your emails in -- we should be ready in a few days from now, cheers, jamal