From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:47:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:47:18 -0400 Received: from shell.cyberus.ca ([209.195.95.7]:54155 "EHLO shell.cyberus.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:47:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:44:40 -0400 (EDT) From: jamal To: Wietse Venema cc: Alan Cox , , Matthias Andree , , , Subject: Re: [PATCH] ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19 In-Reply-To: <20010906204104.A3FBDBC06C@spike.porcupine.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Sigh. Which part dont you understand? Youve been told about 1000 times already, but let me shout: YOU CAN GET THE INFORAMTION YOU WANT IF YOU USE NETLINK. Cheers, jamal On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Wietse Venema wrote: > Please stop that BSD versus Linux drivel. Either make a constructive > contribution or be silent. > > I don't care what API is "superior", as long as it provides me with > the information that I want. > > Wietse > > jamal: > > > > > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > > > Alan Cox: > > > > > Soldiers are marching down the street. The mother of one of those > > > > > soldiers is ever so proud. All the other guys are marching out of > > > > > step. Her son is the only one who does it right. > > > > > > > > > > That's what it looks like for a person who writes Internet software > > > > > that aims to work on a wide variety of platforms. > > > > > > > > I think you have the metaphor wrong. The older API is a bit like the > > > > cavalry charging into battle at the start of world war one. It may have been > > > > how everyone did it but they guys with the "newfangled, really not how it > > > > should be done, definitely not cricket" machine guns got the last laugh > > > > > > Keep your superiority complex out of my mailbox, thank you. > > > > > > > Wietse, > > > > netlink, as a few people have pointed to you is the 'proper' way to do > > things. Sure, the BSDs did it the way you love it, but linux is a > > different operating system (cut the "if its not Scottish its crap > > mentality"). Netlink does improve on "the way its always been done for > > the last 80 years". Infact netlink has already been approved to be (at > > least informational) RFC. Look at a slightly dated draft at: > > http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-salim-netlink-jhshk-00.txt > > Maybe you should preach to the BSDs about netlink? > > > > cheers, > > jamal > > > > PS:- If you want help on writting netlink based code to achieve what you > > are trying to do, just yell. Look at the source for the ip utility which > > is within the iproute2 package. > > > > >