From: Ilija Hadzic <ihadzic@research.bell-labs.com>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Robert Morell <rmorell@nvidia.com>,
sumit.semwal@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dma-buf: Use EXPORT_SYMBOL
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 07:55:34 -0600 (CST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.62.1201180733450.26200@umail> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9txEgGgbim5Gtz5=Cr5Mf3NrQCx0D=0dQu25gtPTzjSM7Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Dave Airlie wrote:
>
> The problem is the x86 nvidia binary driver does sit outside of
> subsystems, and I forsee wanting to share buffers with it from the
> Intel driver in light of the optimus hardware. Although nouveau exists
> and I'd much rather nvidia get behind that wrt the kernel stuff, I
> don't forsee that happening.
>
Please correct me if I blab a nonsense here, but just the other day, we
have seen a different thread in which it was decided that user cannot turn
on buffer sharing at compile time explicitly, but rather a driver that
needs it would turn it on automatically.
Doesn't that alone exclude out-of-tree drivers? In other words if you have
two out-of-tree drivers that want to use DMA buffer sharing, and no other
enabled driver in the kernel enables it implicitly, then such a kernel
won't make it possible for said two drivers to work.
On a related note, EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL will still happily link with
out-of-tree driver, for as long as that driver comes under GPL-compatible
license. So it's not really a question of whether the driver is
out-of-tree or in-tree, but it's a question of driver's license.
Frankly, I never understood this "low-level interface" argument that is
kicked around when EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL topic is brought up. My view to
EXPORT_SYMBOL vs. EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL is that it really boils down to
license controversy about binary/proprietary modules in Linux kernel. To
me it's about whether the authors of certain code (for mostly
phylosophical reasons) agree that their (GPL) code is OK or not OK to link
against non-GPL module.
>From that angle, I am not sure if it is ethical at all to modify how the
symbol is exported without explicit consent of the original author
(regardless of what we think about GPL/proprietary modules covtroversy).
So if NVidia needs to link DMA buffer sharing against their proprietary
driver, they should have explicit permission from the original author to
turn its symbols into EXPORT_SYMBOL.
-- Ilija
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-18 14:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201061458020.18430@skynet.skynet.ie>
2012-01-18 0:08 ` Expanding the use of DMA buffers in 3.3 Robert Morell
2012-01-18 0:08 ` [PATCH] dma-buf: Use EXPORT_SYMBOL Robert Morell
2012-01-18 9:10 ` Semwal, Sumit
2012-01-18 12:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-01-18 12:21 ` Dave Airlie
2012-01-18 13:55 ` Ilija Hadzic [this message]
2012-01-18 14:00 ` Dave Airlie
2012-01-19 1:11 ` Robert Morell
2012-01-18 14:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-01-18 12:23 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-19 7:26 ` Dave Airlie
2012-01-20 18:04 ` Robert Morell
2012-01-20 18:12 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-21 17:32 ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-25 5:34 ` Semwal, Sumit
2012-01-25 12:30 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-25 13:46 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-25 13:48 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-18 11:48 ` Alan Cox
2012-02-19 21:20 ` Rob Clark
2012-01-18 11:53 ` Expanding the use of DMA buffers in 3.3 Alan Cox
2012-01-19 6:43 ` Pekka Enberg
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