From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Tigran Aivazian <tigran@aivazian.fsnet.co.uk>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
Stelian Pop <stelian.pop@fr.alcove.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.5.5] do export vmalloc_to_page to modules...
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 12:16:37 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204041151550.17895-100000@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020404184405.C32431@dualathlon.random>
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> adding export symbol here and there it's the same thing you did in the
> redhat kernel and in your tux patches here:
it was done by first *asking* all maintainers/authors involved, including
the network folks and Linus. Plus at the time it was done no _GPL way to
signal internal components existed, i'd otherwise have used it to document
that this is an internal export only, for the fully GPL-ed TUX subsystem.
But i'd have no problem with making TUX a fully statically linked thing
either. [it's just so convenient to demand-link TUX as a part of the
kernel.]
> There is no difference at all with what you did above and with my
> removal of the _GPL tag from the vmalloc_to_page [...]
(lets stop this vmalloc_to_page() thing, as i said i agree with providing
it as a published export. It's a small-enough function to be a non-issue.)
> Now if my understanding is wrong, I'd like to know of course, I'm not
> expert here, but the only logical thing I'm sure about is that if it's
> illegal for me to export my GPL wrapper then I've just the right to make
> all non GPL drivers illegal, that is the only logical sure thing that
> can be deducted. And yes, I'd be really happy if I'd that right.
while i'm not a lawyer either, i think the question here is intent, like
in most matters of law/contract. If your intent is to make something that
is a derivative look like something that is not a derivative, you are on
the bad side. Eg. the GPL also uses intent in a form - eg. 'source code'
is not some arbitrary language or format, 'source code' is the preferred
form intended for development. In this sense it's not a GPL-conform
publication of source code to provide hex-encoded objects within C files,
even though C code matches the technical definition of 'source code'.
the other problem is that i think we really want to cooperate with people
who'd like to interface with the kernel in kernel-space, without making
their code a derivative of the kernel, along a well-defined API, even if
those people do not want to GPL their code for whatever reasons. But like
Alex mentioned it, Linux never had a 'well defined module API'. There was
no guarantee, no nothing, it's not an API in the GPL sense i think.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-04-04 17:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-20 13:13 Stelian Pop
2002-02-20 16:00 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 16:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-04-03 16:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-03 17:43 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-03 18:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-03 19:11 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-03 19:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-03 20:05 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-03 20:27 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-03 21:22 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-03 21:26 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-03 21:48 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-03 19:03 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-03 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-03 19:19 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-03 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-03 21:05 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-03 21:25 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-04 6:43 ` Keith Owens
2002-04-04 10:22 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-04 10:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-04-04 11:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-04 12:01 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-04 12:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-04-04 12:48 ` Russell King
2002-04-04 12:40 ` Russell King
2002-04-04 12:46 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-05 7:29 ` David Schwartz
2002-04-05 8:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-04-05 8:28 ` David Schwartz
2002-04-04 13:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-04-04 15:21 ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-05 9:25 ` Paul Gortmaker
2002-04-04 15:35 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-04 16:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-04 17:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-04-04 17:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-04-04 17:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-04-04 18:15 ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-05 0:47 ` Linux kernel and binary drivers (was: [PATCH 2.5.5] do export vmalloc_to_page to modules...) Steffen Persvold
2002-04-04 15:55 ` [PATCH 2.5.5] do export vmalloc_to_page to modules Richard B. Johnson
2002-04-04 16:14 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-04 16:15 ` Peter Horton
2002-04-04 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-04-04 16:38 ` Michael Clark
2002-04-04 20:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-04-04 16:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-04 17:16 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2002-04-04 18:00 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-04 16:42 ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-03 19:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-03 19:38 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-03 19:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-03 19:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-03 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-03 20:35 ` Gerd Knorr
2002-04-03 22:17 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-04-03 22:24 ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-03 22:33 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-03 22:35 ` David S. Miller
2002-04-06 9:08 ` David Woodhouse
2002-04-03 22:39 ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-04 5:59 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-04-04 12:06 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-04 9:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-04-03 19:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-03 19:35 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-05 6:06 ` David Schwartz
2002-04-05 12:48 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-05 18:46 ` David Schwartz
2002-04-05 19:27 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-05 20:05 ` David Schwartz
2002-04-06 17:55 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-03 19:19 ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-03 21:07 ` David Schwartz
2002-04-03 21:33 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-03 21:28 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-03 22:09 ` David Schwartz
2002-04-04 6:26 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-04-04 8:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-04-04 12:01 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-20 16:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-04-03 23:47 Petr Vandrovec
2002-04-04 0:19 ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-04 11:54 Petr Vandrovec
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0204041217290.18660-100000@imladris.surriel .com>
2002-04-04 16:11 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-04 16:29 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204041123410.6422-100000@devserv.devel.redh at.com>
2002-04-04 17:06 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-04 17:55 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-04 17:52 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-04 17:27 Nicholas Berry
2002-04-05 13:22 Gareth Hughes
2002-04-09 6:55 Rick A. Hohensee
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