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From: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] new module format
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:12:08 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207172146590.8911-100000@serv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E17Utwm-0004Oy-00@starship>

Hi,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote:

> > 1. Properly fixing module races: I'm playing with a init/start/stop/exit
> > model, this has the advantage that we can stop anyone from reusing a
> > module and we only have to wait for remaining users to go away until we
> > can safely unload the module.
>
> I'm satisfied that, for filesystems at least, all the module races can be
> solved without adding start/stop, and I will present code in due course.

The start/stop methods are not needed to fix the races, they allow better
control of the unload process.

> However, Rusty tells me there are harder cases than filesystems.  At this
> point I'm waiting for a specific example.

For filesystems it's only simpler because they only have a single entry
point, but the basic problem is always the same. We have to protect
against module load/unload and unregister. Without an interface change we
will have to add module owner pointers everywhere and we will see
contention on the unload_lock due to try_inc_mod_count.

bye, Roman


  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-17 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-16 13:04 Roman Zippel
2002-07-17 18:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-17 20:12   ` Roman Zippel [this message]
2002-07-17 20:34     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-17 22:45       ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-17 23:47         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-18 10:01           ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-18 11:09             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-18 12:02               ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-18 12:13                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-19  8:42 ` Rusty Russell
2002-07-19  9:31   ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-20  4:13     ` Rusty Russell

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