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From: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
To: Ivan Godard <igodard@pacbell.net>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel support for peer-to-peer protection models...
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:45:34 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403291019290.2275-100000@bigblue.dev.mdolabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <082a01c41562$cecdf940$fc82c23f@pc21>

On Sun, 28 Mar 2004, Ivan Godard wrote:

> Ah! you wanted to know about exec, not fork. A true fork() is pretty rare
> these days anyway. Still, the answer is pretty much the same: the fork()
> gets you a new data space, retaining the old code space, and the exec()
> finds (or creates) the code space that cmd's code is in and switches the
> active code space to that space. Heritable data, such as file descriptors,
> won't have been in the old data space anyway, so the child references them
> through syscalls just as in a conventional.
> 
> Perhaps I'm missing your question here, but in general we see no problem
> with fork/exec in our model - it's one of the least changed things. You
> always get a new address space on a conventional, and you also do with a
> Mill; the only difference is that you don't have to shoot down the cache or
> TLB, so a fork/exec should be quite a bit faster.

No, sorry. Lossy email compression (sometimes being concise is a virtue 
but I usually fall way too far). Reading thru previous messages seems 
confusing to me. On one side you say that fork() uses a std COW, on the 
other side you say that the unified virtual address space combined with 
virtually tagged cache let you avoid cache flushes. As soon as you COW, 
you have one virtual address that refer to two different physical addresses.
Does the virtual address have extra tag bits to identify the task?



- Davide






  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-29 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-27  4:23 Ivan Godard
2004-03-29  0:17 ` Paul Mackerras
2004-03-29  3:18   ` Ivan Godard
2004-03-29  3:48     ` Davide Libenzi
2004-03-29  7:52       ` Ivan Godard
2004-03-29 18:45         ` Davide Libenzi [this message]
2004-03-29 20:53           ` Ivan Godard
     [not found] <048e01c413b3$3c3cae60$fc82c23f@pc21.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-03-27  6:29 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-28 20:21   ` Ivan Godard
2004-03-28 23:14     ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-29  8:09       ` Ivan Godard
2004-03-29 15:36       ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-30 14:06         ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-30 15:09         ` Ivan Godard
     [not found] <048e01c413b3_3c3cae60_fc82c23f@pc21>
2004-03-27 10:34 ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-28  1:32   ` Ivan Godard
2004-03-28  6:24     ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-28  6:32       ` Ivan Godard
2004-03-28 18:54         ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-28 19:56           ` Ivan Godard
2004-03-28 20:35             ` Pavel Machek

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