From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
Cc: chakkerz@optusnet.com.au,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [OT] Crazy idea: Design open-source graphics chip
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:30:44 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0401291127090.13834@chaos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40193136.4070607@techsource.com>
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Timothy Miller wrote:
>
>
> Christian Unger wrote:
> >>No more being at the mercy of closed-development graphics chip designers
> >>who make Linux an after-though if they even think of us at all.
>
> > Oh ... don't get me wrong, i think that the conceptual idea is awesome.
> > Personally, i wouldn't know where to begin, but can the open source community
> > compete with Nvidia and ATI? afterall this goes beyond software, it delves
> > into hardware. Sure there are people with the knowledge, maybe even with the
> > means, but i doubt the financial backing would be there from the get go.
> >
>
> We cannot compete with Nvidia or ATI or 3Dlabs or Matrox or even S3.
>
> The real question we have to ask ourselves is, what would be the market
> demand for a graphics card that is 3 generations behind the state of the
> art and over-priced, the only advantage being that it's a 100% open
> architecture?
>
> I don't have $100k to have it fabricated, so we have to goad some
> company into doing it for us, and given the volumes, they'll have to
> charge way more than it's worth if you compare its capabilities against
> ATI et al.
>
> I've got some great ideas for how to do this chip, but they're frankly
> nothing revolutionary. The obvious test bed is an FPGA. That imposes
> serious limitations on what kind of logic utilization and performance we
> can get. The ASIC version can be clocked faster, but we dare not put in
> untested logic. (And we can't afford the tools necessary to do the
> proper simulation.)
>
>
> So, the big question: How many units a year would be sold for an
> underpowered, over-priced graphics card that just happens to be 100%
> open and 100% supported?
>
With the press Linux is getting from the IBM/Linux advertisements
for the US football games, etc., methinks it won't be long before
NVidia and all the rest go open-source, just to jump onto that
band-wagon. They just need a smart way to protect their intellectual
property.
Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.24 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-01-29 16:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-01-28 17:34 Timothy Miller
2004-01-29 1:11 ` Christian Unger
2004-01-29 15:59 ` Stephen Smoogen
2004-01-29 16:07 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2004-01-29 16:21 ` John Bradford
2004-01-29 16:13 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-29 16:29 ` John Bradford
2004-01-29 16:52 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-29 17:18 ` John Bradford
2004-01-29 17:47 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-29 18:55 ` John Bradford
2004-01-29 19:11 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-29 21:36 ` John Bradford
2004-01-29 21:36 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-30 10:36 ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-30 17:02 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-30 17:20 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-01-30 17:40 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-30 18:11 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-01-30 18:21 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-30 19:09 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-01-30 21:09 ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-30 21:23 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-31 17:32 ` John Bradford
2004-01-31 18:39 ` Roland Dreier
2004-01-30 17:23 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-01-30 17:44 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-30 19:01 ` John Bradford
2004-01-30 21:19 ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-01 10:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-02-01 11:06 ` John Bradford
2004-02-01 11:46 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-02-01 22:41 ` Christian Unger
2004-02-02 17:13 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-02 17:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-01-30 16:54 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-02-01 10:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-02-02 17:03 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-29 16:30 ` Richard B. Johnson [this message]
2004-01-29 16:58 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-29 18:08 ` Frank Gevaerts
2004-01-30 22:35 ` Esben Stien
2004-01-29 18:06 ` Torrey Hoffman
2004-01-29 18:58 ` Timothy Miller
2004-01-31 18:41 ` Pavel Machek
2004-01-31 18:15 ` Tomas Zvala
2004-02-01 14:58 DaMouse Networks
2004-02-02 17:16 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-02 17:37 ` DaMouse Networks
2004-02-02 18:45 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-02 19:43 ` DaMouse Networks
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