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From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: Roland Dreier <roland@topspin.com>
Cc: Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: poll() in 2.6 and beyond
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:16:30 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0403021808240.9351@chaos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52hdx6rh7t.fsf@topspin.com>

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Roland Dreier wrote:

>     Richard> You are playing games with semantics because you are
>     Richard> wrong.  The code in fs/select.c about line 101, adds the
>     Richard> current caller to the wait-queue.
>
> I assume you mean the call to add_wait_queue() there.  That does not
> sleep.  Look at the implementation.  add_wait_queue() is defined in
> kernel/fork.c -- it just does some locking and calls
> __add_wait_queue().  __add_wait_queue() is really nothing more than
> a list_add().  There's nothing more to it and nothing that goes to
> sleep.  Where do you think add_wait_queue() goes to sleep?
>
>     Richard> This wait-queue is the mechanism by which the current
>     Richard> caller sleeps, i.e., gives the CPU up to somebody else.
>     Richard> That caller's thread will not return past that line until
>     Richard> a wake_up_interruptible() call has been made for/from the
>     Richard> driver or interface handling that file descriptor. In
>     Richard> this manner any number of file discriptors may be handled
>     Richard> because the poll() routine for each of then makes its own
>     Richard> entry into the wait-queue using the described mechanism.
>
> But there's only one thread around: the user space process that called
> into the kernel via poll().  If the first driver goes to sleep, which
> thread do you think is going to wake up and call into the second
> driver?
>

There are two routines where the CPU is actually given up,
do_select() and do_poll().  Search for schedule_timeout().
Once the scheduler has the CPU, it's available for any of
the other drivers. It's also available for the timer queues,
other tasks, and the interrupts.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.24 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
            Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.



  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-02 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-02 18:21 Richard B. Johnson
2004-03-02 20:04 ` Roland Dreier
2004-03-02 20:24   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-03-02 21:00     ` Roland Dreier
2004-03-02 21:26       ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-03-02 21:39         ` Roland Dreier
2004-03-02 21:59           ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-03-02 22:41             ` Dave Dillow
2004-03-02 22:56             ` Roland Dreier
2004-03-02 23:16               ` Richard B. Johnson [this message]
2004-03-02 23:21                 ` Roland Dreier
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     [not found] ` <1vonq-6dr-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <1voGY-6vC-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <1vpjt-7dl-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <1vpCV-7wY-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <1vpWa-7Py-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-02 22:53           ` Bill Davidsen
2004-03-02 22:57             ` Roland Dreier
2004-03-02 23:32             ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-03-03  0:07               ` John Muir
2004-03-03  1:18                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-03-03  4:04                   ` Roland Dreier
2004-03-03 12:38                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-03-03 14:29                       ` Davide Libenzi
2004-03-03  3:57               ` David Dillow
2004-03-03 18:23                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-03-03 19:29                   ` Dave Dillow
2004-03-03 20:10                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-03-03 22:25                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-03 22:42                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-03-03 23:14                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-03 22:52                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-03 23:07                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-03-03  3:06 linux

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