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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] SMP races in the timer code, timer-fix-2.6.0-test7-A0
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:49:07 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.56.0310111713440.8641@earth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F881B46.6070301@colorfullife.com>


On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Manfred Spraul wrote:

> What about moving the "timer running" information into the timer_list,
> instead of keeping it in the base? For example base=0 means neither
> running nor pending. base=1 means running, but not pending, and pointers
> mean pending on the given base.
> 
> This would allow an atomic test without the brute force locking.

it's not so simple. Firstly, it would burden some of the other timer
codepaths with extra logic. (mod/add/del_timer) Secondly, the use of
timer->base is closely controlled, and it's not that simple to clear the
value of '1' from timer->base after the timer has run. [this could race
with any other CPU.]

it would be much cleaner to add another timer->running field, especially
since this would be the 8th word-sized field in struct timer_list, making
it a nice round structure size.

btw., there's a third type of timer race we have. If a timer function is
delayed by more than 1 timer tick [which could happen under eg. UML], then
it's possible for the timer function to run on another CPU in parallel to
the already executing timer function.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-11 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-11 15:01 Manfred Spraul
2003-10-11 15:49 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2003-10-11 16:08   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-10-11 16:17     ` Manfred Spraul
2003-10-13 10:12     ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-11 16:40   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-10-14  4:24     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-14 11:43       ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-11  8:55 Ingo Molnar
2003-10-16 17:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli

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