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From: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "Giacomo A. Catenazzi" <cate@pixelized.ch>,
	Krishna Akella <akellak@onid.orst.edu>,
	Paul Jakma <paul@clubi.ie>,
	kartikey bhatt <kartik_me@hotmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Can't X be elemenated?
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:52:04 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0310071148300.19220@dlang.diginsite.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031007121825.GA323@elf.ucw.cz>

On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Pavel Machek wrote:

>
> Hi!
>
> > >>different toolkits exist becouse people are solving different problems.
> > >>which set of people do you propose telling that their desires don't
> > >>matter?
> > >
> > >
> > >Well, qt and gtk solve pretty much same problem,
> > >their existence seems like historical accident to me.
> >
> > Hmm. World (also in linux kernel) is not so efficient!
> > There are more tools for same task/problem. Maybe in the long run only one
> > tools per problem will survive, but the diversity is good, also at cost of
> > the duplicate work.
>
> It is not where you have competing interfaces.
>
> > Do you want only one distribution for user, one for small companies, one
> > for schools,...? Do you want only one web server implementation? Only one
> > filesystem per task (only one journaling FS)?
> > Are they all "historical accident"?
>
> Well, I'm pretty glad there's only one glibc, and only one http
> protocol, and only one X protocol. And it would be way better if there
> was just one toolkit commonly used on Linux.

true, there is only one glibc, but there is not just one c library (uclib,
etc) and while there is only one http protocol there is not just a single
webserver api (netscape, IIS, apache 1.3, apache 2.0 all have different
api's)

there do need to be common points, in the case of GUI's on *nix X is the
common point, the toolkits used to write programs don't need to all have
the exact same api.

David Lang

-- 
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-07 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-29 14:44 kartikey bhatt
2003-09-29 14:51 ` Leonard Milcin Jr.
2003-09-29 15:05   ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-09-29 15:10 ` Erik Hensema
2003-09-29 15:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-29 20:56 ` George France
2003-09-29 21:04   ` Erik Bourget
2003-09-29 21:16   ` Erik Steffl
2003-09-29 21:11 ` Diego Calleja García
2003-09-29 22:30 ` bill davidsen
2003-09-30  8:18 ` [OT ]Re: " Helge Hafting
2003-09-30 18:48 ` Paul Jakma
2003-09-30 19:30   ` Krishna Akella
2003-09-30 20:21     ` David Lang
2003-09-30 20:46       ` Krishna Akella
2003-09-30 20:45         ` David Lang
2003-10-07  4:04       ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-07  8:23         ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2003-10-07 12:18           ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-07 12:46             ` [OT] " Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2003-10-07 12:52             ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 14:34               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-07 14:47             ` Jesse Pollard
2003-10-07 15:37               ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-07 19:07                 ` David Lang
2003-10-07 19:16                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-07 20:09                   ` jlnance
2003-10-07 18:52             ` David Lang [this message]
2003-09-30 21:51     ` J.A. Magallon
2003-10-01 14:54     ` Jesse Pollard
2003-10-01  8:27   ` John Bradford
2003-09-29 19:45 kartikey bhatt
2003-09-30  8:09 kartikey bhatt
2003-09-30  9:25 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-09-30  9:54 ` Paul Rolland
2003-09-30 13:34 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-09-30 17:50 kartikey bhatt
2003-10-01  4:32 kartikey bhatt
2003-10-01  5:00 ` Tupshin Harper
2003-10-01 15:12 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-10-01 18:27 ` Tomasz Rola
2003-10-02  8:57 ` Helge Hafting
2003-10-02 18:18   ` Herbert Poetzl
2003-10-03 14:30     ` Jesse Pollard
2003-10-02 18:37   ` Erik Steffl
     [not found] <BGWr.3eL.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-01  8:19 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau

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