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From: John Heil <kerndev@sc-software.com>
To: Thomas Zehetbauer <thomasz@hostmaster.org>
Cc: Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Intel vs AMD x86-64
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 17:11:28 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0402231707220.13525@scsoftware.sc-software.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1077584461.8414.164.camel@hostmaster.org>

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote:

> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 02:01:02 +0100
> From: Thomas Zehetbauer <thomasz@hostmaster.org>
> To: Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Subject: Re: Intel vs AMD x86-64
>
> On Sam, 2004-02-21 at 19:12 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > Any Intel people on this list: tell your managers to be f*cking ashamed of
> > themselves. Just because Intel didn't care about their customers and has
> > been playing with some other 64-bit architecture that nobody wanted to use
> > is no excuse for not giving credit to AMD for what they did with x86-64.
>
> This very clear statement deserves standing ovations :-)
>
> If anyone from Intel is really listening here I would like them to know
> that I am pretty much pissed of by their product politics as well.
>
> Although older Celeron processors supported SMP configurations they were
> not supported and to my knowledge never used in the primary SMP market.
> So in fact they even helped Intel to increase their revenues by allowing
> hobbyists to build their own affordable SMP boxes. Nonetheless Intel has
> decided to disable this capability in current Celeron and even Pentium
> processors attempting to force hobbyists into the professional market
> with about four times the cost of previous configurations.
>
> For my part I have understood the message from Intel, that they do not
> want hobbyists looking for cheap SMP configurations as their customers
> and will accordingly buy AMD in the future.
>
> Tom
>

I'll second that.

For whatever it's worth I replaced all my intel business boxes w AMD
w the advent of the K7/Athlon's and haven't looked back since,
including SMP. Next up for us will be dual Opteron. I cannot see
ever returning to Intel.


johnh

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-24  1:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-18  1:44 Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18  9:56 ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-02-18 14:31   ` Diego Calleja García
2004-02-18 18:17     ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2004-02-18 14:54   ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-02-18 15:47   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-22  2:59     ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-02-22  3:12       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-22  3:39         ` Tomasz Rola
2004-02-22  3:47           ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-22  4:12         ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-02-23  0:38           ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-23  2:17             ` Tom Vier
2004-02-22  8:38         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-02-22 10:00         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-02-23 15:51         ` Clay Haapala
2004-02-23 17:03         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-02-23 17:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-24  9:47             ` Kees Bakker
2004-02-24  9:59               ` viro
2004-02-24 10:59             ` Andrew Walrond
2004-02-23 18:56           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-23 21:25         ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-23 21:36           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-23 21:48             ` David S. Miller
2004-02-23 22:08               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-23 22:06                 ` David S. Miller
2004-02-23 22:56             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-24  1:01         ` Thomas Zehetbauer
2004-02-24  1:11           ` John Heil [this message]
2004-02-24 13:32             ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-24 14:39               ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-02-24 19:43               ` Rogier Wolff
2004-02-24 19:49                 ` John Heil
2004-02-24 20:03                   ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-24 20:03                     ` John Heil
2004-02-24 21:20                   ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-25 18:40         ` Matt Seitz
2004-02-18 19:13   ` Aaron Lehmann
2004-02-19  6:02     ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-02-19  9:15 ` Terje Eggestad
2004-02-18 21:26 Peter Maas
2004-02-18 21:28 Peter Maas
2004-02-23 18:10 Nakajima, Jun
2004-02-24 13:25 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-23 19:59 Xose Vazquez Perez
2004-02-24  2:42 Albert Cahalan
2004-02-24 16:44 ` Dave Jones
2004-02-24 15:11   ` Albert Cahalan
2004-02-24 17:34     ` Dave Jones
2004-02-24 15:29       ` Albert Cahalan
2004-02-24 18:07         ` Dave Jones
2004-02-24 21:01 Sean Fao
2004-02-24 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-24 22:21   ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-25 22:30   ` Davide Rossetti
2004-02-24 21:31 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-24 21:31   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-24 21:28     ` Dave Jones
2004-02-26 21:39       ` Kai Henningsen
2004-02-24 23:15 Nakajima, Jun
2004-02-25  1:52 ` Chris Wedgwood
     [not found] <7F740D512C7C1046AB53446D37200173EA2684@scsmsx402.sc.intel.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-02-24 23:49 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-25  3:07 Nakajima, Jun
2004-02-25  3:24 Nakajima, Jun
2004-02-25 16:22 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-25 16:17   ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-25 17:18     ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-25 17:16       ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-25 19:05         ` Timothy Miller
     [not found] <1sRYA-1uZ-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1sSi2-1NC-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <1sT4l-2CW-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-02-25 15:41     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-02-25 16:08       ` Moritz Muehlenhoff
2004-02-25 20:07 Nakajima, Jun
2004-02-25 23:44 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-26  0:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-26  1:19 Nakajima, Jun
2004-02-26 16:04 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-27  3:16   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-03-02 23:22 Nakajima, Jun

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