From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269237AbUHZR75 (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:59:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269233AbUHZR7C (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:59:02 -0400 Received: from fw.osdl.org ([65.172.181.6]:11495 "EHLO mail.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S269312AbUHZRnc (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:43:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:32:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Jamie Lokier cc: Rik van Riel , Diego Calleja , christophe@saout.de, vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua, christer@weinigel.se, spam@tnonline.net, akpm@osdl.org, wichert@wiggy.net, jra@samba.org, reiser@namesys.com, hch@lst.de, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, flx@namesys.com, reiserfs-list@namesys.com Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 In-Reply-To: <20040826172703.GR5733@mail.shareable.org> Message-ID: References: <20040826172703.GR5733@mail.shareable.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > No no. The stream you get from a directory is totally _independent_ of the > > contents of the directory. Anything else would be pointless. > > Surely it depends on the directory? Well, you _could_ make it do a "tar", but what's the point? That really doesn't add any value as far as user space is concerned. Think of it this way: if the directory and the "default stream" associated with it aren't independent, then user space already has the information, and the stream is pointless. In fact, the stream is _worse_ than pointless, because it hides the fact that there is no independent information. See my point? Linus