From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262690AbVF3Gux (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:50:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262803AbVF3Guw (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:50:52 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com ([24.24.2.58]:3284 "EHLO ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262690AbVF3Guo (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:50:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:50:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Steven Rostedt X-X-Sender: rostedt@localhost.localdomain Reply-To: rostedt@goodmis.org To: Bill Huey cc: Nick Piggin , "Paul E. McKenney" , Kristian Benoit , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, andrea@suse.de, tglx@linutronix.de, karim@opersys.com, mingo@elte.hu, pmarques@grupopie.com, bruce@andrew.cmu.edu, ak@muc.de, sdietrich@mvista.com, dwalker@mvista.com, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org, rpm@xenomai.org Subject: Re: PREEMPT_RT and I-PIPE: the numbers, take 3 In-Reply-To: <20050630021837.GA24343@nietzsche.lynx.com> Message-ID: References: <42C320C4.9000302@opersys.com> <20050629225734.GA23793@nietzsche.lynx.com> <20050629235422.GI1299@us.ibm.com> <20050630015041.GA24234@nietzsche.lynx.com> <42C35167.1090607@yahoo.com.au> <20050630021441.GA24287@nietzsche.lynx.com> <42C35440.8010703@yahoo.com.au> <20050630021837.GA24343@nietzsche.lynx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Bill Huey wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 12:09:04PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote: > > What part of "drop me from your cc list" were you having trouble > > understanding? > > Then don't comment or reply to these emails and use some kind of > condescending tone. > > bill > Bill, I'm on your side of the issue here, and I have a high stake in going with Ingo's RT patch. If you want to be listened to, don't insult people or just get angry in your posts. Best thing to do is let Ingo reply, since he will do his best to find out why the numbers are the way they are, and fix the situation. The RT patch still has far to go and these tests help (even if they show a bad light on RT), because Ingo and company will most likely show where the tests have failed, or if it is RT that failed, we can fix it. This is just like the MS benchmarks against Linux, they actually showed where Linux had a bottle neck, and although people complained that MS was setting up the test to hurt Linux, it actually found a problem with Linux that was quickly fixed. So we can thank MS in making Linux a more competitive OS. Kristian and Karim have put a lot of effort into understanding the RT patch (thanks guys!) and we should appreciate it. I don't really believe that they are trying to hurt RT (like MS was with Linux), they are just trying to make real comparisons. In the end, I strongly believe that their work will help the RT patch. -- Steve