From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751322AbWGIJuq (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Jul 2006 05:50:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751323AbWGIJuq (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Jul 2006 05:50:46 -0400 Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.41]:61656 "EHLO mail-in-01.arcor-online.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751322AbWGIJuq (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Jul 2006 05:50:46 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 11:50:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de> To: Trond Myklebust cc: 7eggert@gmx.de, Bill Davidsen , "J. Bruce Fields" , Theodore Tso , Thomas Glanzmann , LKML Subject: Re: ext4 features In-Reply-To: <1152283049.5726.26.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> Message-ID: References: <6tVcC-1e1-79@gated-at.bofh.it> <6uXYv-3RG-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <6veG8-350-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <6vfiU-465-13@gated-at.bofh.it> <6vmNk-77r-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <6vnq7-7Tw-55@gated-at.bofh.it> <6vrN0-5Se-9@gated-at.bofh.it> <6vBsY-38p-9@gated-at.bofh.it> <1152283049.5726.26.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-be10.7eggert.dyndns.org-MailScanner-Information: See www.mailscanner.info for information X-be10.7eggert.dyndns.org-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-be10.7eggert.dyndns.org-MailScanner-From: 7eggert@web.de Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Trond Myklebust wrote: > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 11:38 +0200, Bodo Eggert wrote: > > If the changes to these files are very infrequent compared to nanoseconds, > > you'll only need the version during some nanoseconds, and only during > > runtime. Having a second-change-within-one-timeframe-flag(*) instead of > > versions will be enough to make NFS mostly happy and only penalize your > > users for one nanosecond, and it won't force version-keeping into the > > filesystem. And besides that, all other filesystems will profit even > > without having nanosecond resolution nor versioning (but they'll suffer > > for up to a whole second). > > NFS never required file versioning. You're talking to the wrong person. > It does, however, need a change attribute that logs all changes to the > file. The above flag does not suffice to provide that. ACK, that's why I'm suggesting this doublechange-flag. -- In the beginning, God created the earth and rested. Then God created Man and rested. Then God created Woman. Since then, neither God nor Man has rested.