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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2.6.13-rc4] fix get_user_pages bug
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 18:27:59 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0508021821310.5659@goblin.wat.veritas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0508020942360.3341@g5.osdl.org>

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Since we will have dropped the page table lock when calling
> handle_mm_fault() (which will just re-get the lock and then drop it 
> again) _and_ since we don't actually mark the page dirty if it was 
> writable, it's entirely possible that the VM scanner comes in and just 
> drops the page from the page tables.
> 
> Now, that doesn't sound so bad, but what we have then is a page that is
> marked dirty in the "struct page", but hasn't been actually dirtied yet.  
> It could get written out and marked clean (can anybody say "preemptible
> kernel"?) before we ever actually do the write to the page.
> 
> The thing is, we should always set the dirty bit either atomically with
> the access (normal "CPU sets the dirty bit on write") _or_ we should set
> it after the write (having kept a reference to the page).
> 
> Or does anybody see anything that protects us here?
> 
> Now, I don't think we can fix that race (which is probably pretty much 
> impossible to hit in practice) in the 2.6.13 timeframe.

I believe this particular race has been recognized since day one of
get_user_pages, and we've always demanded that the caller must do a
SetPageDirty (I should probably say set_page_dirty) before freeing
the pages held for writing.

Which is why I was a bit puzzled to see that prior set_page_dirty
in __follow_page, which Andrew identified as for s390.

> Maybe I'll have to just accept the horrid "VM_FAULT_RACE" patch. I don't
> much like it, but.. 

I've not yet reached a conclusion on that,
need to think more about doing mkclean in copy_one_pte.

Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-02 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20050801032258.A465C180EC0@magilla.sf.frob.com>
2005-08-01  8:21 ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-01  9:19   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-01  9:27     ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-01 10:15       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-01 10:57         ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-01 19:43           ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-01 20:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-01 21:06               ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-01 21:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-01 22:01                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-02 12:01                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-08-02 12:26                       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-02 12:28                         ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-02 15:19                         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-08-02 15:30                       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-02 16:03                         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-02 16:25                           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-02 17:02                             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-02 17:27                               ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2005-08-02 17:21                             ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-02 18:47                               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-02 19:20                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-02 19:54                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-02 20:55                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-03 10:24                                       ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-03 11:47                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-03 12:13                                           ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-03 16:12                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-03 16:39                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-03 16:42                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-03 17:12                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-03 23:03                                           ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-04 14:14                                           ` Alexander Nyberg
2005-08-04 14:30                                             ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-04 15:00                                               ` Alexander Nyberg
2005-08-04 15:35                                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-04 16:32                                                   ` Russell King
2005-08-04 15:36                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-04 16:29                                               ` Russell King
2005-08-03 10:24                                       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-08-03 11:57                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-02 16:44                         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-08-01 15:42   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-01 18:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-03  8:24       ` Robin Holt
2005-08-03 11:31         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-04 11:48           ` Robin Holt
2005-08-04 13:04             ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-01 19:29     ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-01 19:48       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-02  8:07         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-08-01 19:57       ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-01 20:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-02  0:14     ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-02  1:27     ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-02  3:45       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-02  4:25         ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-02  4:35           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-01 20:03   ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-01 20:12     ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-01 20:26       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-01 20:51       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-02 14:02 Dan Higgins

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