From: Grzegorz Kulewski <kangur@polcom.net>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: How to flush data to disk reliably?
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 21:18:35 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0505022057070.11701@alpha.polcom.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1115056355.10370.37.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Thanks for your fast response!
On Mon, 2 May 2005, Alan Cox wrote:
>> I am asking how to flush the data from these logs to disk. I know of
>> several methods:
>> 1. open with O_SYNC,
>> 2. sync(2),
>> 3. fsync,
>> 4. fdatasync,
>> 5. msync (if they are mmaped).
>>
>> Which of these are best and most reliable for (a/b) and for (IDE/SCSI)?
>
> For scsi the combination of O_SYNC and ext3 or fsync and ext3 should be
> reliable. fdatasync doesn't write back all the metadata so depending on
> the use may not be sufficient. FAT based fs's I believe you need a
> current kernel for full O_SYNC behaviour.
What about other filesystems? Does anybody know anwser for Reiserfs3,
Reiser4, JFS, XFS and any other popular server filesystems? I assume that
if log file is some block device (like partition) both O_SYNC and fsync
will work? What about ext2? What about some strange RAID/DM/NBD
configurations? (I do not know in advance what our customers will use so I
need portable method.)
>> What are differences between them?
>
> See the manual pages and/or standard.
I already saw them. But I am asking about current implementation status on
Linux. For example does fsync differ from fdatasync if file is block
device? Does O_SYNC always equal "write; fsync" for all not read only
operations? Is it faster because only one syscall is executed?
Also flushing should be slow (for example 50 flushes/s) because disk seeks
are slow. So if I need say 200 reliable writes to log per second may I put
4 independent disks into the server and use them as 4 independent log
files? But fsync operation blocks. Is there any "submit flush request and
get some info when done" command or should I use 4 threads / processes?
Thanks in advance,
Grzegorz Kulewski
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-02 19:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-02 13:23 Grzegorz Kulewski
2005-05-02 17:52 ` Alan Cox
2005-05-02 19:18 ` Grzegorz Kulewski [this message]
2005-05-02 21:41 ` Alan Cox
2005-05-02 22:30 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-02 23:17 ` Arjan van de Ven
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