From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932279AbVH3WoU (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:44:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932278AbVH3WoT (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:44:19 -0400 Received: from newton.linux4geeks.de ([193.30.1.1]:61831 "EHLO newton.linux4geeks.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932279AbVH3WoS (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:44:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:43:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Sven Ladegast To: Alan Cox cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: KLive: Linux Kernel Live Usage Monitor In-Reply-To: <1125412611.8276.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: References: <20050830030959.GC8515@g5.random> <1125412611.8276.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Alan Cox wrote: > but it would have to be opt in. That might lower coverage but should > increase quality, especially id the id in the cookie can be put into > bugzilla reports, and the hardware reporting is done so it can be > machine processed (ie so you can ask stuff like 'reliability with Nvidia > IDE') Maybe I used the wrong words... But you are right: It has to be opt-in! A change in the kernel sources which automagically sends data, regardless what kind of data, to somewhere in the net must not be enabled by default. But until klive is implemented one day it is interesting thinking about what possibilities (and maybe even possible misuse) such a data collection has. What data does klive send? Is the data just a hash of different system variables or is it also possible to identify one single computer (or person)? Data protection...laws etc. are things that must be considered too maybe. I think the problem is not the technical implementation. The bigger problem is the data, where it comes from and the most interesting point what to do with it at the end. Sven