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From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/3] mutex subsystem: trylock
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:22:09 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0512282200470.3309@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1135685158.2926.22.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote:

> btw I really think that 1) is wrong. trylock should do everything it can
> to get the semaphore short of sleeping. Just because some cacheline got
> written to (which might even be shared!) in the middle of the atomic op
> is not a good enough reason to fail the trylock imho. Going into the
> slowpath.. fine. But here it's a quality of implementation issue; you
> COULD get the semaphore without sleeping (at least probably, you'd have
> to retry to know for sure) but because something wrote to the same
> cacheline as the lock... no. that's just not good enough.. sorry.

Well... actually it is not clear from the documentation how the 
exclusive monitor is tagging accesses (lots of implementation specific 
latitude).  So you are right that it could cause too many false negative 
results.


Nicolas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-29  3:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-23 16:16 [patch 00/11] mutex subsystem, -V7 Ingo Molnar
2005-12-24  5:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-24  5:23   ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-26 19:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-26 19:25 ` [patch 1/3] mutex subsystem: trylock Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-27 11:51   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-27 20:47     ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-28  7:48       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-28  8:13         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-28 16:29           ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-28 17:09             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-27 12:05   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-27 13:15     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-29  4:06       ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-29  8:33         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-29  9:01           ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-29 17:15             ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-30  2:05               ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-29 16:46           ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-29  3:22     ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2005-12-26 19:25 ` [patch 2/3] mutex subsystem: fastpath inlining Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-27 11:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-27 21:59     ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-28  7:41       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-29  2:53         ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-29  8:41           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-06 21:20             ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-26 19:26 ` [patch 3/3] mutex subsystem: inline mutex_is_locked() Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-27 11:37   ` Ingo Molnar

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