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From: Esben Nielsen <nielsen.esben@googlemail.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Esben Nielsen <nielsen.esben@googlemail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why can't I set the priority of softirq-hrt? (Re: 2.6.17-rt1)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:03:57 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606211035550.10723@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0606210406310.29673@gandalf.stny.rr.com>



On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> [...]
> No, I think fixing the bug you found is better :)
>

Thomas convinced me. I don't like the design though. Moving the 
task priorities around isn't very healthy. It is confusing and it 
complicates stuff a lot. But as Thomas says, with my solution one could 
make DOS attack from userspace by arranging a lot of timers to timeout
simultaniously (or sufficient close to each other).
However, this is still possible, but less easy to do: In the interrupt 
every timer expirering is touched. I.e. by having a lot of timers you push 
a lot of work into the interrupt routine. In fact the interrupt routine 
also have to take the timer out of the binary tree, so the worst case interrupt 
latency is O(N log N), N being the total amount of timer in the system!!

But what about the configure option HIGH_RES_RESOLUTION ? It is barely 
used in the system now. But if timers closer than the resolution were 
batched together in a plist, then all the interrupt should do was to merge 
two plists, namely the list of newly timeouts and the list of stuff still 
pending to be executed by the softirq thread. The worst case would then be
max(O(log N), O(<number of priorities==140>), which is both fairly limited as
N can never be bigger than 1G on a 32 bit system such that log N <= 30.

Esben

> -- Steve
>

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-21 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-18  7:06 2.6.17-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-18 16:13 ` 2.6.17-rt1 Michal Piotrowski
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606201656230.11643@localhost.localdomain>
2006-06-20 15:13   ` Why can't I set the priority of softirq-hrt? (Re: 2.6.17-rt1) Thomas Gleixner
2006-06-20 17:09     ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-20 16:35       ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-06-20 21:16         ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-20 20:35           ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-06-20 23:19             ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-20 16:39       ` Steven Rostedt
2006-06-20 18:12         ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-20 17:21           ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-06-20 21:26             ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-20 20:51               ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-06-21  8:20               ` Steven Rostedt
2006-06-21 11:05                 ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-21 15:43                   ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-21 15:21                     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-06-21 16:37                       ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-21 15:51                         ` Steven Rostedt
2006-06-21 17:14                           ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-21 16:26                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-06-21 18:30                       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-22 10:28                         ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-21 21:29                       ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-21 20:33                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-06-21 23:35                           ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-22  7:06                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-06-22 10:32                               ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-22 13:33                               ` Steven Rostedt
2006-06-22 13:45                       ` Steven Rostedt
2006-06-22 14:20                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-06-22 14:23                           ` Steven Rostedt
2006-06-22 14:26                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-06-22 18:06                               ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-22 18:05                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-06-23 11:23                                   ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-23 11:06                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-03 11:48                                     ` Esben Nielsen
2006-06-21  8:13           ` Steven Rostedt
2006-06-21 11:03             ` Esben Nielsen [this message]
2006-06-22  0:57 ` 2.6.17-rt1 Lee Revell
2006-06-22  2:51   ` More weird latency trace output (was Re: 2.6.17-rt1) Lee Revell
2006-06-23  1:24     ` Lee Revell
2006-06-24 22:15       ` Lee Revell
2006-06-24 22:12         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-24 22:31           ` Lee Revell
2006-06-24 23:49           ` Lee Revell
2006-06-23 20:56 ` 2.6.17-rt1 - mm_struct leak Vernon Mauery
2006-06-24  9:24   ` Mark Hounschell
2006-06-24  9:32     ` Mark Hounschell
2006-06-30 16:02   ` [PATCH -RT]Re: " Vernon Mauery

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