From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932760AbXCCWLE (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:11:04 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030487AbXCCWLE (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:11:04 -0500 Received: from x35.xmailserver.org ([64.71.152.41]:33048 "EHLO x35.xmailserver.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932895AbXCCWLC (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:11:02 -0500 X-AuthUser: davidel@xmailserver.org Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:10:59 -0800 (PST) From: Davide Libenzi X-X-Sender: davide@alien.or.mcafeemobile.com To: Evgeniy Polyakov cc: Ingo Molnar , Eric Dumazet , Pavel Machek , Theodore Tso , Linus Torvalds , Ulrich Drepper , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Arjan van de Ven , Christoph Hellwig , Andrew Morton , Alan Cox , Zach Brown , "David S. Miller" , Suparna Bhattacharya , Jens Axboe , Thomas Gleixner Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] Syslets, "Threadlets", generic AIO support, v3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20070301131118.GA30228@elte.hu> <20070301133018.GB30177@2ka.mipt.ru> <200703011519.20001.dada1@cosmosbay.com> <20070301141637.GA20006@elte.hu> <20070301145454.GB12684@2ka.mipt.ru> <20070302081047.GA27122@2ka.mipt.ru> <20070303100625.GA22557@2ka.mipt.ru> <20070303203140.GA756@2ka.mipt.ru> X-GPG-FINGRPRINT: CFAE 5BEE FD36 F65E E640 56FE 0974 BF23 270F 474E X-GPG-PUBLIC_KEY: http://www.xmailserver.org/davidel.asc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 3 Mar 2007, Davide Libenzi wrote: > Those *other* (tons?!?) interfaces can be created *when* the need comes > (see Linus signalfd [1] example to show how urgent that was). *When* > the need comes, they will work with existing POSIX interfaces, without > requiring your own just-another event interface. Those other interfaces > could also be more easily adopted by other Unix cousins, because of > the fact that they rely on existing POSIX interfaces. One of the reason > about the Unix file abstraction interfaces, is that you do *not* have to > plan and bloat interfaces before. As long as your new abstraction behave > in a file-fashion, it can be automatically used with existing interfaces. > And you create them *when* the need comes. Now, if you don't mind, my spare time is really limited and I prefer to spend it looking at stuff the topic of this thread talks about. Even because the whole epoll/kevent discussion is heavily dependent on the fact that syslets/threadlets will or will not result a viable method for generic AIO. Savvy? - Davide