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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Kirk Kuchov wrote:
> 
> I don't believe I'm wasting my time explaining this. They don't exist
> as /dev/null, they are just fucking _LINKS_. I could even "ln -s
> /proc/self/fd/0 sucker". A real /dev/stdout can/could even exist, but
> that's not the point!

Actually, one large reason for /proc/self/ existing is exactly /dev/stdin 
and friends.

And yes, /proc/self looks like a link too, but that doesn't change the 
fact that it's a very special file. No different from /dev/null or 
friends.

		Linus