From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933267AbXDFWrE (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Apr 2007 18:47:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S933286AbXDFWrE (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Apr 2007 18:47:04 -0400 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.24]:36455 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933267AbXDFWrD (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Apr 2007 18:47:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:46:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Davide Libenzi cc: Ingo Molnar , "Eric W. Biederman" , Oleg Nesterov , Robin Holt , Chris Snook , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Jack Steiner Subject: Re: init's children list is long and slows reaping children. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <46159987.6090006@redhat.com> <20070406104301.GB19755@lnx-holt.americas.sgi.com> <20070406163100.GA554@tv-sign.ru> <20070406191945.GA18255@elte.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > I don't really see the point. It's not even *true*. A "process" includes > > more than the shared signal-handling - it would include files and fs etc > > too. > > > > So it's actually *more* correct to call it the shared signal state than it > > would be to call it "process" state. > > But "signal" has *nothing* to do with what the structure store nowadays, > really. It's a pool of "things" that are not Linux task specific. You're ignoring reality. It has more to do with signals than with processes. Look at *all* the fields in the top half of the structure, up to (and including) the "tty" field. They're *all* about signal semantics in one form or another (whether it's directly about shared signal behaviour, or indirectly about *sources* of signals like process control or timers). And renaming it really has no upsides, even *if* you had a point, which you don't. Linus