From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933404AbXDZHew (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:34:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S933460AbXDZHew (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:34:52 -0400 Received: from netops-testserver-4-out.sgi.com ([192.48.171.29]:43615 "EHLO relay.sgi.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933153AbXDZHev (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:34:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:34:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoph Lameter X-X-Sender: clameter@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com To: Nick Piggin cc: "Eric W. Biederman" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman , William Lee Irwin III , David Chinner , Jens Axboe , Badari Pulavarty , Maxim Levitsky Subject: Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3 In-Reply-To: <46305327.2000206@yahoo.com.au> Message-ID: References: <20070424222105.883597089@sgi.com> <463048FE.5000600@yahoo.com.au> <46304D50.1040706@yahoo.com.au> <46305327.2000206@yahoo.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Nick Piggin wrote: > No I don't want to add another fs layer. Well maybe you could explain what you want. Preferably without redefining the established terms? > I still don't think anti fragmentation or defragmentation are a good > approach, when you consider the alternatives. I have not heard of any alternatives in this discussion here. Just the old line of lets tune the VM here and there and hope it lasts a while longer. > OK, I would like to see them. And also discussions of things like why > we shouldn't increase PAGE_SIZE instead. Because 4k is a good page size that is bound to the binary format? Frankly there is no point in having my text files in large page sizes. However, when I read a dvd then I may want to transfer 64k chunks or when use my flash drive I may want to transfer 128k chunks. And yes if a scientific application needs to do data dump then it should be able to use very high page sizes (megabytes, gigabytes) to be able to continue its work while the huge dumps runs at full I/O speed ...