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From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@mindspring.com>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: undeprecate raw driver.
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 12:46:11 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705131239200.942@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0705131835110.9570@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>

On Sun, 13 May 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

>
> On May 13 2007 12:32, Dave Jones wrote:
>
> >Despite repeated attempts over the last two and half years, this
> >driver seems somewhat persistant.  Remove its deprecated status as
> >it has existing users who may not be in a position to migrate their
> >apps
>
> At least keep the "it's obsolete" Kconfig description. We don't want
> new users/projects to jump on /dev/raw.

i just *know* this is a mistake, but i'm going to take one more shot
at distinguishing between deprecated and obsolete.

as i understand it, the raw driver is *deprecated*.  that is, it's
still there, it's still supported, people are still using it but its
use is *seriously* discouraged and everyone should be trying to move
off of it at their earliest possible convenience.

that is *not* the same as "obsolete" which should mean that that
feature is dead, dead, DEAD and *no one* should be using it anymore.

yes, i realize it sounds like splitting hairs, but it's this malleable
definition of "deprecated" that's causing all of this trouble in the
first place -- the fact that the raw driver is currently listed as
"obsolete" when it is, in fact, only deprecated.

in short, do *not* remove its "deprecated" status.  rather, remove its
"obsolete" status and *make* it deprecated.

rday
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-13 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-13 16:32 Dave Jones
2007-05-13 16:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-13 16:43   ` Dave Jones
2007-05-13 16:46   ` Robert P. J. Day [this message]
2007-05-13 17:34     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-05-13 17:56       ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-13 20:06         ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-13 20:24           ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-13 21:40             ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-13 20:10         ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-13 21:49           ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-13 22:42             ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-13 23:01           ` Bob Johnston
2007-05-14 11:42             ` Alan Cox
2007-05-14 13:53               ` Bob Johnston
2007-05-14 14:07                 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-15  2:47                   ` David Schwartz
2007-05-14 13:39     ` Bill Davidsen

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