mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux/m68k <linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make m68k cross compile like every other architecture.
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:51:50 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710120849480.11634@anakin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200710111614.39879.rob@landley.net>

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Rob Landley wrote:
> On Thursday 11 October 2007 11:26:07 am Finn Thain wrote:
> My toolchains override the default prefix to just the target, resulting 
> in "m68k-gcc".  (It's shorter, and when you're creating a dozen toolchains 
> having them all say -linux- in the middle of every command name gets a bit 
> silly...)
> 
> When it started complaining about "m68k-linux-gnu-gcc" (which is _not_ what my 
> cross compiler is called) I spent half an hour tracking down where it was 
> getting that name from and what exactly was going on.  (Was my build script 
> supplying the wrong name?  Did something set an environment variable it 
> shouldn't have?  Did the gcc build suddenly reveal another strange buried 
> corner case that made it revert to a default against explicit instructions 
> _again_?)
> 
> When I found the surprising behavior that cost me time and effort to diagnose, 
> I submitted a patch so it wouldn't confuse future developers the first time 
> _they_ try to build m68k.  (Yes, I think there might be such.  Call me 
> crazy.)  I've seen "didn't specify any cross compiler" failures before, on 
> arm and x86-64 and mips and sparc and so on.  I've seen it in the linux 
> kernel, in busybox, in uClibc, and in various gnu packages 
> with ./configureitis.  This is the first time I've seen a package confidently 
> decide for itself to use a compiler name that isn't in the $PATH, and 
> especially the first time I've seen Linux do it.  It cost me time to 
> disagnose because it looks like it's getting a CROSS_COMPILE setting from its 
> environment somehow, and the logical thing to do is look at that environment 
> (and the build scripts driving it, and the temp files) to see where such a 
> thing might be leaking in from.  The fact it might be hallucinating its own 
> value was not my first guess, because nothing else I've encountered does that 
> in this context.
> 
> > This wasn't an issue before we came to depend on cross compilers. Since we
> > tend to need them more as compilation becomes more expensive, IMHO we
> > should follow the practice of the embedded architectures.
> 
> That topic's a can of worms, but I point out that you always needed a cross 
> compiler to bootstrap a new platform. :)
> 
> If you're going to support cross compiling at all, you might as well do it 
> more or less consistently for all targets.

If your cross-compiler is called differently than the default on in
arch/*/Makefile, what's the problem with calling?

    make ARCH=myarch CROSS_COMPILE=my-cross-compile-prefx-

This has been working for +10 years on all non-ia32 platforms I ever worked on.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
							    -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-12  6:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-10 22:22 Rob Landley
2007-10-11  7:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-10-11 11:31   ` Rob Landley
2007-10-11 11:39   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-11 12:46     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-10-11 13:27       ` Rob Landley
2007-10-11 13:52         ` Paul Mundt
2007-10-11 15:12         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-10-11 16:26           ` Finn Thain
2007-10-11 21:14             ` Rob Landley
2007-10-12  6:51               ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2007-10-12  7:54                 ` Finn Thain
2007-10-12  8:51                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-10-12 10:21                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-15 20:25                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-10-16  0:31                         ` Rob Landley
2007-10-16  4:15                           ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-18 21:14                         ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-19  6:38                           ` Rob Landley
2007-10-19 15:10                             ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-11 16:24       ` Sam Ravnborg

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=Pine.LNX.4.64.0710120849480.11634@anakin \
    --to=geert@linux-m68k.org \
    --cc=fthain@telegraphics.com.au \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=rob@landley.net \
    --cc=sam@ravnborg.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®