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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>
Cc: Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>,
	Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Giridhar Pemmasani <pgiri@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:40:54 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801300838550.12371@anakin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47A00D43.60602@acm.org>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Zan Lynx wrote:
> Jon Masters wrote:
> > I wouldn't quite say that. I wasn't going to comment, but...personally,
> > I actually disagree with the assertions that ndiswrapper isn't causing
> > proprietary code to link against GPL functions in the kernel (how is
> > an NDIS implementation any different than a shim layer provided to
> > load a graphics driver?), but I wasn't trying to make that point.
> 
> Well, as long as *any* part of the kernel ever links to proprietary code, then
> GPL functions link to it in exactly the same way ndiswrapper enables.  It's
> only a matter of how many steps of separation.
> 
> A perfectly GPL USB network driver linked to GPL-only functions feeds data
> into the kernel where it swirls about and emerges from a proprietary network
> filesystem driver, for example.

A proprietary network filesystem driver _on a different system_, you
mean? In this case the proprietary code has no direct access to your
kernel data, except through the communication protocol. No tainting is
involved, as all corruption in your kernel is caused by kernel bugs in
visible code that can be debugged.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
							    -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-30  7:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-29 21:22 Pavel Roskin
2008-01-29 22:27 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-29 22:35   ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2008-01-29 23:21   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30  0:25     ` Jon Masters
2008-01-29 22:45 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 23:56   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30  3:24     ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-30  5:07       ` Jon Masters
2008-01-30  5:26         ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30  6:03           ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-30  6:12             ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-29 22:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-29 23:04   ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 23:06   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-29 23:25   ` Måns Rullgård
2008-01-30  0:35     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30  0:46       ` Måns Rullgård
2008-01-30  1:44         ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-01-30  7:38         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-01-30  8:45           ` Måns Rullgård
2008-01-30 21:00           ` David Schwartz
2008-01-29 23:44   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30  0:25     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30  2:02       ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30 11:24         ` Rusty Russell
2008-01-30 17:54         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 18:15           ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-30 18:45             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 19:43               ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-30 20:26                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-30 21:09                   ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]     ` <E1JKJvh-0006P8-Pi@fencepost.gnu.org>
2008-02-01  5:08       ` Pavel Roskin
2008-02-06 10:50         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-06 11:11           ` Xavier Bestel
2008-02-06 11:38           ` David Schwartz
2008-02-06 15:10             ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-30  0:48   ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2008-01-30 17:54     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 18:26       ` Chris Friesen
2008-01-30 18:54         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 19:36           ` Lee Revell
2008-01-30 20:28             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-31  1:00               ` Michael Gerdau
2008-02-05 13:00                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-04 12:42             ` Alan Cox
2008-02-04 13:56               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-31  3:25       ` David Newall
2008-01-31 15:20         ` Chris Friesen
2008-01-30  0:20 ` Jon Masters
2008-01-30  0:35   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-30  0:48     ` Jon Masters
2008-01-30  1:33       ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30  1:48   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30  2:08     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-30  5:04     ` Jon Masters
2008-01-30  5:38       ` Zan Lynx
2008-01-30  7:40         ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2008-01-30  8:54           ` Måns Rullgård
2008-01-30 20:50       ` David Schwartz

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