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From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 04/41] cpu ops: Core piece for generic atomic per cpu operations
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:00:40 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0805301055270.14564@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200805301708.51284.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

On Fri, 30 May 2008, Rusty Russell wrote:

> > No its not! In order to increment a per cpu value you need to calculate
> > the per cpu pointer address in the current per cpu segment.
> 
> Christoph, you just missed it, that's all.  Look at cpu_local_read et al in 
> include/asm-i386/local.h (ie. before the x86 mergers chose the lowest common 
> denominator one).

There is no doubt that local_t does perform an atomic vs. interrupt inc 
for example. But its not usable. Because you need to determine the address 
of the local_t belonging to the current processor first. As soon as you 
have loaded a processor specific address you can no longer be preempted 
because that may change the processor and then the wrong address may be 
increment (and then we have a race again since now we are incrementing 
counters belonging to other processors). So local_t at mininum requires 
disabling preempt.
 
Believe me I have tried to use local_t repeatedly for vm statistics etc. 
It always fails on that issue. See f.e. the patch that converts vmstat to 
cpu alloc and compare with my initial local_t based implementation 2 years 
ago that bombed out because I assumed that local_t would work right.

cpu ops does both

1. The determination of the address of the object belonging to the local 
processor.

and

2. The RMW

in one instruction. That avoids having to disable preemption or interrupts 
and it shortens the instructions significantly.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-30 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-30  3:56 [patch 00/41] cpu alloc / cpu ops v3: Optimize per cpu access Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 01/41] cpu_alloc: Increase percpu area size to 128k Christoph Lameter
2008-06-02 17:58   ` Luck, Tony
2008-06-02 23:48     ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-10 17:22     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-10 19:54       ` Luck, Tony
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 02/41] cpu alloc: The allocator Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  4:58   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30  5:10     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  5:31       ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-02  9:29         ` Paul Jackson
2008-05-30  5:56       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-05-30  6:16         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-04 14:48     ` Mike Travis
2008-05-30  5:04   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-05-30  5:20     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  5:52       ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-04 15:30         ` Mike Travis
2008-06-05 23:48           ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-30  5:54       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-06-04 14:58       ` Mike Travis
2008-06-04 15:11         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-06-06  0:32           ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-10 17:33         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-10 18:05           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-06-10 18:28             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  5:46   ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-04 15:04     ` Mike Travis
2008-06-10 17:34       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-31 20:58   ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 03/41] cpu alloc: Use cpu allocator instead of the builtin modules per cpu allocator Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  4:58   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30  5:14     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  5:34       ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30  6:08   ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-30  6:21     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 04/41] cpu ops: Core piece for generic atomic per cpu operations Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  4:58   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30  5:17     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  5:38       ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30  6:12         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  7:08           ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-30 18:00             ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2008-06-02  2:00               ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-04 18:18                 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-05 23:59                   ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-09 19:00                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-09 23:27                       ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-09 23:54                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-10  2:56                           ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-10  3:18                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-11  0:03                               ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-11  0:15                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-09 23:09                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-10 17:42                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-11 11:10                   ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-11 23:39                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-12  0:58                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-12  2:44                         ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-12  3:40                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-12  9:37                             ` Martin Peschke
2008-06-12 11:21                               ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-12 17:19                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-13  0:38                                   ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-13  2:27                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-15 10:33                                       ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-16 14:52                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-17  0:24                                           ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-17  2:29                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-17 14:21                                             ` Mike Travis
2008-05-30  7:05         ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-30  6:32       ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 05/41] cpu alloc: Percpu_counter conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  6:47   ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-30 17:54     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 06/41] cpu alloc: crash_notes conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 07/41] cpu alloc: Workqueue conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 08/41] cpu alloc: ACPI cstate handling conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 09/41] cpu alloc: Genhd statistics conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 10/41] cpu alloc: blktrace conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 11/41] cpu alloc: SRCU cpu alloc conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 12/41] cpu alloc: XFS counter conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 13/41] cpu alloc: NFS statistics Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 14/41] cpu alloc: Neigbour statistics Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 15/41] cpu_alloc: Convert ip route statistics Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 16/41] cpu alloc: Tcp statistics conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 17/41] cpu alloc: Convert scratches to cpu alloc Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 18/41] cpu alloc: Dmaengine conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 19/41] cpu alloc: Convert loopback statistics Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 20/41] cpu alloc: Veth conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 21/41] cpu alloc: Chelsio statistics conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 22/41] cpu alloc: Convert network sockets inuse counter Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 23/41] cpu alloc: Use it for infiniband Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 24/41] cpu alloc: Use in the crypto subsystem Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 25/41] cpu alloc: scheduler: Convert cpuusage to cpu_alloc Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 26/41] cpu alloc: Convert mib handling to cpu alloc Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  6:47   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-05-30 18:01     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 27/41] cpu alloc: Remove the allocpercpu functionality Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  4:58   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 28/41] Module handling: Use CPU_xx ops to dynamically allocate counters Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 29/41] x86_64: Use CPU ops for nmi alert counter Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 30/41] Remove local_t support Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 31/41] VM statistics: Use CPU ops Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 32/41] cpu alloc: Use in slub Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 33/41] cpu alloc: Remove slub fields Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 34/41] cpu alloc: Page allocator conversion Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 35/41] Support for CPU ops Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  4:58   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30  5:18     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 36/41] Zero based percpu: Infrastructure to rebase the per cpu area to zero Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 37/41] x86_64: Fold pda into per cpu area Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 38/41] x86: Extend percpu ops to 64 bit Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:56 ` [patch 39/41] x86: Replace cpu_pda() using percpu logic and get rid of _cpu_pda() Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:57 ` [patch 40/41] x86: Replace xxx_pda() operations with x86_xx_percpu() Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  3:57 ` [patch 41/41] x86_64: Support for cpu ops Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  4:58 ` [patch 00/41] cpu alloc / cpu ops v3: Optimize per cpu access Andrew Morton
2008-05-30  5:03   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  5:21     ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30  5:27       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  5:49         ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30  6:16           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  6:51             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-05-30 14:38         ` Mike Travis
2008-05-30 17:50           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30 18:00             ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-30 18:12               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  6:01       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-05-30  6:16         ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30  6:22           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-30  6:37             ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30 11:32               ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-04 15:07   ` Mike Travis
2008-06-06  5:33     ` Eric Dumazet
2008-06-06 13:08       ` Mike Travis
2008-06-08  6:00       ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-09 18:44       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-09 19:11         ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-09 20:15           ` Eric Dumazet

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