From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>,
Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Allocate module.ref array dynamically
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:47:24 -0600 (CST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811201038580.19948@quilx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200811161030.34054.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > And other flags can become necessary if percpu areas gain the ability of
> > being dynamically extended.
>
> And other flags become impossible, eg. GFP_ATOMIC.
There are other flags that may become relevant like GFP_THISNODE, reclaim
settings (counter allocation from filesystem context) etc.
> The strange indirection was from someone's failed experiment at only
> allocating only online cpus. We should kill that as a separate patch.
I fully agree.
> There are several seperate things here (this is to make sure my head is
> straight and to clarify for others skimming):
>
> 1) Make the dynamic percpu allocator use the static percpu system.
> - Agreed, always the aim, never quite happened.
Ack.
> 2) Make zeroing optional
> - Disagree, adds API complexity for corner case with no gain. Using
> gfp_t for it is even worse, since it implies GFP_ATOMIC is valid or
> sensible.
It does not imply that. Various allocations limit the type of flags that
can be passed. Also there may be situations in which GFP_ATOMIC will make
sense in the future f.e. if a percpu counter structure has to be allocated
from an interrupt context.
GFP_FS, GFP_IO, GFP_NOFAIL GFP_ZERO GFP_NOMEMALLOC GFP_THISNODE and
GFP_HARDWALL could all be relevant for a dynamically extending percpu
allocator since memory reclaim could be triggered.
> 3) Change API to use CAPS for macros
> - Strongly disagree, Linus doesn't use CAPS for type-taking macros
> (list_entry, container_of, min_t), it's ugly, and status-quo wins.
That is the cause for many problems because people assume these can be
handled like a function.
> 4) Get rid of unused "online-only" percpu allocators.
> - Agree, and will simplify implementation and macro tangle.
Ack.
> 5) Make dynamic percpu var access more efficient.
> - Agree, obviously. x86 for the moment, the rest can follow (or not).
Ack.
>
> 6) Use percpu allocations more widely.
> - Definitely, I have some other patches which use it too. And makes even
> more sense once (5) is done.
Ack.
> 7) Make percpu area grow dynamically.
> - Yes, but a thorny tangle esp. with IA64. The cmdline hack is probably
> sufficient meanwhile, and parallels can be drawn with vmalloc.
Allright. Please check with David Miller who wants to allocate thousands
of network interfaces which all need a MIB block.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-20 16:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-11 20:01 Takashi Iwai
2008-11-11 22:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-11 22:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-11 22:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-11 22:26 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 1:44 ` Rusty Russell
2008-11-12 2:26 ` Mike Travis
2008-11-12 3:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-12 13:46 ` Mike Travis
2008-11-12 3:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-12 9:59 ` Rusty Russell
2008-11-12 20:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-12 22:01 ` Rusty Russell
2008-11-12 22:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-13 9:21 ` Rusty Russell
2008-11-13 14:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-13 23:49 ` Rusty Russell
2008-11-14 0:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-16 0:00 ` Rusty Russell
2008-11-16 21:41 ` Rusty Russell
2008-11-20 16:47 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2008-11-20 23:21 ` Rusty Russell
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