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From: Reiner Sailer <sailer@us.ibm.com>
To: James Morris <jmorris@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>,
	emilyr@us.ibm.com, yoder1@us.ibm.com, kylene@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, toml@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1 of 4] ima: related TPM device driver interal kernel interface
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:41:23 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.4.63.0505201634370.3360@laptop> (raw)

James Morris <jmorris@redhat.com> wrote on 05/20/2005 04:32:58 PM:

> On Fri, 20 May 2005, Reiner Sailer wrote:
> 
> > > Why are you using LSM for this?
> > > 
> > > LSM should be used for comprehensive access control frameworks which 
> > > significantly enhance or even replace existing Unix DAC security.
> > 
> > I see LSM is framework for security. IMA is an architecture that
> > enforces access control in a different way than SELinux. IMA guarantees 
> > that executable content is measured and accounted for before
> > it is loaded and can access (and possibly corrupt) system resources.
> 
> LSM is an access control framework.  Your (few) LSM hooks always return
> zero, and don't enforce access control at all.  You even have a separate
> measurement hook for modules.
> 
> I suggest implementing all of your code via distinct measurement hooks, so 
> measurement becomes a distinct and well defined security entity within the 
> kernel.

This is certainly possible. This means that there will be 5 more hooks
(such as the one in kernel/module.c, see PATCH 4 of 4).

If the kernel maintainers are in favor of this approach, then there is not
much that stands against this.

> LSM should not be used just because it has a few hooks in the right place
> for your code.
>
> 
> - James
> -- 
> James Morris
> <jmorris@redhat.com>
> 
> 
> 
> 

Thanks
Reiner


             reply	other threads:[~2005-05-20 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-20 20:41 Reiner Sailer [this message]
2005-05-21  5:57 ` Greg KH
     [not found] <OF78B8C5CF.5EB676A1-ON85257007.005EA7BF-85257007.005FF5F9@us.ibm.com>
2005-05-20 20:32 ` James Morris
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-20 17:38 Reiner Sailer
2005-05-20 13:06 Kylene Hall
2005-05-20 14:56 ` James Morris

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