From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH next v2 2/3] printk: change @clear_seq to atomic64_t
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 13:56:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <X84mjRsbxcsAfi1x@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mtyq9blw.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>
On Mon 2020-12-07 11:09:39, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2020-12-07, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >> Yes, and it is read-only access. Perhaps atomic64_t is the wrong thing
> >> to use here. We could use a seqcount_latch and a shadow variable so that
> >> if a writer has been preempted, we can use the previous value. (Only
> >> kmsg_dump would need to use the lockless variant to read the value.)
> >>
> >> void clear_seq_set(u64 val)
> >> {
> >> spin_lock_irq(&clear_lock);
> >> raw_write_seqcount_latch(&clear_latch);
> >> clear_seq[0] = val;
> >> raw_write_seqcount_latch(&clear_latch);
> >> clear_seq[1] = val;
> >> spin_unlock_irq(&clear_lock);
> >> }
> >>
> >> u64 clear_seq_get_nolock(void)
> >> {
> >> unsigned int seq, idx;
> >> u64 val;
> >>
> >> do {
> >> seq = raw_read_seqcount_latch(&clear_latch);
> >> idx = seq & 0x1;
> >> val = clear_seq[idx];
> >> } while (read_seqcount_latch_retry(&clear_latch, seq));
> >>
> >> return val;
> >> }
> >
> > That's overly complicated.
> >
> > If you're going to double the storage you can simply do:
> >
> >
> > seq = val
> > smp_wmb();
> > seq_copy = val;
> >
> > vs
> >
> > do {
> > tmp = seq_copy;
> > smp_rmb();
> > val = seq;
> > } while (val != tmp);
>
> That will not work. We are talking about a situation where the writer is
> preempted. So seq will never equal seq_copy in that situation. I expect
> that the seqcount_latch is necessary.
Or we could disable interrupts around the writer.
But seqcount_latch will actually be need so that it works in panic().
The writer might be on a CPU that has been stopped using NMI. And this
code is used by dumpers() that are called during panic().
Sigh, I have to take a coffee and try to really understand the latch code ;-)
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-07 12:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-01 20:53 [PATCH next v2 0/3] printk: remove logbuf_lock John Ogness
2020-12-01 20:53 ` [PATCH next v2 1/3] printk: inline log_output(),log_store() in vprintk_store() John Ogness
2020-12-03 15:57 ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-03 16:25 ` John Ogness
2020-12-04 6:13 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-04 8:26 ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-01 20:53 ` [PATCH next v2 2/3] printk: change @clear_seq to atomic64_t John Ogness
2020-12-04 9:12 ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-06 20:23 ` John Ogness
2020-12-07 9:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-07 10:03 ` John Ogness
2020-12-07 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-07 12:56 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2020-12-07 16:46 ` David Laight
2020-12-08 20:34 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-08 22:30 ` John Ogness
2020-12-09 1:04 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-09 8:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09 9:22 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-09 10:46 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-09 11:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09 11:28 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-09 12:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-01 20:53 ` [PATCH next v2 3/3] printk: remove logbuf_lock, add syslog_lock John Ogness
2020-12-04 6:41 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-06 20:44 ` John Ogness
2020-12-04 15:52 ` devkmsg: was " Petr Mladek
2020-12-06 20:51 ` John Ogness
2020-12-07 9:56 ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-04 15:57 ` syslog: was: " Petr Mladek
2020-12-06 21:06 ` John Ogness
2020-12-07 10:01 ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-04 16:10 ` recursion handling: " Petr Mladek
2020-12-05 4:25 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-06 22:08 ` John Ogness
2020-12-05 9:41 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-06 22:17 ` John Ogness
2020-12-06 21:44 ` John Ogness
2020-12-07 11:17 ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-04 16:15 ` vprintk_store: was: " Petr Mladek
2020-12-06 22:30 ` John Ogness
2020-12-07 12:46 ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-04 16:19 ` consoles: " Petr Mladek
2020-12-05 4:39 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-07 9:50 ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-08 20:51 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
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