From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269296AbUH0JY1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:24:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269385AbUH0JVA (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:21:00 -0400 Received: from denise.shiny.it ([194.20.232.1]:8652 "EHLO denise.shiny.it") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S269315AbUH0JTO (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:19:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:18:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Giuliano Pochini To: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 Cc: ReiserFS List , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Hans Reiser , Jamie Lokier , Christoph Hellwig Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 26-Aug-2004 Linus Torvalds wrote: > I advocated (long ago) something like this for /dev handling, just because > I think it would make sense to have > > /dev/hda <- special file > /dev/hda/part1 <- partition 1 (aka /dev/hda1) This breaks the r4 semantics if I understood it correctly. Because /partN are not simply associated to the file, they are part of the file. ie. when I modify /dev/hda I also change /dev/hda/partN and vice-versa. I don't see any pratical problem, though. > Still, I really do like the idea of merging the notion of file and > directory into one notion of "container". I absolutely _detest_ files with > internal structure that tools have to know about (ie I hate seeing all > those embedded formats that I can't use "grep" on - MIME being one case). > I'd much rather see a "group of files" and a "file with a grouping of > information". You're actually looking for a database with a legacy fs-like interface :) -- Giuliano.